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Sat May 12, 2012, 09:12 AM May 2012

How rational is America?

The home of conspiracy theories, creationism and climate scepticism is also a scientific powerhouse. Neil Denny is on a road trip to explore this contradiction

Neil Denny
guardian.co.uk, Friday 11 May 2012 09.51 EDT

This is the first of a short series of columns, so I'll begin with a brief introduction. I'm the producer and presenter of a radio show and podcast called Little Atoms. It's a talk show mainly concerned with popular science and rationalism, encompassing the "Sceptic" movement. We're interested in how science and culture, and often science and religion, rub up against each other.

I'm not a scientist by training, my interest in science and scepticism coming quite late in life. As a child in the 1970s I was obsessed by the space race, and I was a fan of the science fiction of the era, such as Star Wars and Close Encounters and Silent Running. I read a lot of post-apocalyptic science fiction. I'd therefore have claimed that I was interested in science, but what I would have really meant was weird phenomena: Bigfoot, UFOs, and the Bermuda Triangle.

I presumed all of these things to be, if not true exactly, then at least plausible and worthy of study by researchers. I certainly wouldn't have been able to tell you the difference between palaeontologists searching for ancient bones, and the search for the Loch Ness Monster.

Then one day I accidentally bought Carl Sagan's masterpiece The Demon Haunted World, presuming from the title that it was another book about unexplained phenomena. And it was, just not in the way I was expecting. Sagan calmly explains in the book that there are natural physical phenomena that are provable, and others that are not, and that there exists in the scientific method a mechanism for telling this stuff apart. This was a revelation to me.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/may/11/how-rational-america

This will be fun to follow.

http://feeds.feedburner.com/littleatomsroadtrip

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How rational is America? (Original Post) rug May 2012 OP
Interesting comments in response to the article. geckosfeet May 2012 #1
No, we don't think that! nt mr blur May 2012 #2
Good catch. Alexis De Toqueville's ghost. n/t dimbear May 2012 #3
Evolution of rational civilization tama May 2012 #4
Love it! laconicsax May 2012 #5
It's not even algebraic. Maybe not even computable. 2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #6

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
1. Interesting comments in response to the article.
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:02 AM
May 2012

They focus on guns, atheism, creationism and anthropogenic warming. And how the US is perceived to be on the opposite side of these issues as the UK and Europe.

Interesting perceptions. They think we are all cretins.

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
6. It's not even algebraic. Maybe not even computable.
Sun May 13, 2012, 08:23 PM
May 2012

Sorry, Math joke. (With an added CS joke as a bonus.)

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