Good news: On Pakistani campuses, evangelicals find room to reflect

[Cartoonist]

The murder had lead to an outpouring of solidarity and grief

A Pakistani court has sentenced one man to death and handed life terms to five others for murdering a student who was falsely accused of blasphemy.

Mashal Khan was dragged out of his university accommodation in north-west Pakistan in April 2017 by a crowd of hundreds of his fellow students.

He was badly beaten before being shot and his body mutilated.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42970587

[guillaumeb]

1. You find murder and intolerance to be "good news"

How very disturbing.

[DetlefK]

2. This OP is a response to yours. And the headline is sarcasm.

The OP is supposed to highlight how willing believers are to tolerate non-believers, after your article celebrated how believers getting preferential treatment from non-believers is a step into the right direction.

[guillaumeb]

3. The post is bizarre. Murder and intolerance are good news?

Motivated perhaps be a desire to attack religion and anything that shows the positive side of religion?

[DetlefK]

4. As I said: Taken into context, it's obviously sarcasm.

[guillaumeb]

7. Perhaps the poster meant it as such, but I will wait for

the poster's explanation.

[DetlefK]

13. What do you think why he refers to Evangelicals?????????

[edhopper]

23. You can't be that obtuse?

[TwistOneUp]

5. The positive side of religion?

The positive side of religion is when one SHUTS THE FUCK UP about it and keeps it to one's self.

Preferential treatment for people who proselytize about something that MAY exist? Man, that's whack.

Instead, we should give preferential treatment to scientists. After all, NATURE EXISTS.

[guillaumeb]

8. Do you think describing murder as " good news" is "whack"?

And this is actually the religion group, so do not be too surprised and shocked to see religion discussed here.

[Voltaire2]

11. Youre the one posturing as shocked.

[guillaumeb]

20. No, simply pointing out what is obvious.

[Voltaire2]

31. "How very disturbing." - your first post in this thread.

[Voltaire2]

6. Motivated by the mountain of evidence that

religion, right now, is generally a disaster across the planet for humanity and progress.

[guillaumeb]

9. A mountain of something.

Evidence perhaps to those who have different beliefs.

[Voltaire2]

10. So there is no evidence that religious beliefs

are motivating a lot of what is wrong with people right now?

Seriously?

[guillaumeb]

19. How about patriotism?

Or other beliefs?

Intolerance is a human characteristic that tells us much about humans.

[Voltaire2]

28. whatboutism

pakistanis aren't murdering each other over patriotism, they are doing it over religion.

[guillaumeb]

30. Avoidance of my point is not the same as refuting it.

Good strategy on your part.

[Voltaire2]

32. project much?

[MineralMan]

15. Murder done on religious grounds, Guy.

By religious people. By believers in the God of Abraham. Blasphemy was why. The irony is palpable. The satire is obvious. You missed it.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

35. ...

[Lordquinton]

12. Typical response from a literalist

Try looking deeper than the words.

[TwistOneUp]

14. Actually...

The people that murdered the alleged blasphemer were believers. They did this because they believed that the man did not believe.

Scientists don't do this kind of bullshit. They hypothesize and test and objectively analyze evidence, or the lack thereof. Belief doesn't enter into the process.

And for the record, there is no evidence of any "supreme beings". This should be the page banner to the Religion group.

[Cartoonist]

16. You raise a good question

The people that murdered the alleged blasphemer were believers. They did this because they believed that the man did not believe.
Scientists don't do this kind of bullshit.
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Have scientists ever murdered someone because they disagreed with them, or felt that their work was being ridiculed? Surely history has one example. Otherwise it's a clean sheet for religion.

[TwistOneUp]

17. Yeah...

Torquemada. I'm sure he wore a "clean sheet".

[Cartoonist]

18. Brappp!

He wasn't a scientist.

[guillaumeb]

21. Scientists invented an atomic bomb

that they had reason to believe would be used in a war.

Weak try on your part.

[Fix The Stupid]

22. "Scientists invented an atomic bomb"

Yes, yes, they did.

They also invented the Polio vaccine.

Why didn't your god give us the vaccine?

[guillaumeb]

26. Scientists weaponized anthrax.

Nice try.

[Fix The Stupid]

27. Again, why did the "scientists" invent the Polio vaccine,when your god could have given it to us? n/

[guillaumeb]

29. Weaponized anthrax.

Nuclear weapons.
Amazing how scince can be misused, is it not?

[Mariana]

34. If the proposed god didn't want people to get polio

it wouldn't have created the polio virus in the first place.

[Voltaire2]

36. Or anthrax.

And wtf is up with ticks? Why would a god make ticks?

[Mariana]

37. Them too. nt.

[edhopper]

24. That is not an example

of what he asked.

Scientist created a bomb because they knew Germany was working on one and didn't want to see a Nazi ruled world.

When have scientists personally murdered someone because they disagreed with their science.

Something that happens all too regularly with religion.

Talk about weak!

[guillaumeb]

25. It is an example of science being used to cause massive destruction.

Showing that anything can be misused for those who exercise power.

[edhopper]

33. It's about motive for human action.

Religions are abstract ideas. It is how people act on those ideas that is deadly.

Scientist don't murder because of their scientific discipline.

It's apples an oranges. A sorry, weak argument.