Religion
Related: About this forumOne of the most appealing things about the story of Jesus,
whether you believe it or not, is the recorded concern he had with the underdogs of the world at that time. He consistently ministered to the lame, the halt, the sick, the weak, the voiceless, and stood up for people who were scorned by the society of the day. He freed a woman in danger of being stoned with a few words about hypocrisy. Everyone who is familiar with the stories recognizes that. He was the champion of "the least of those" who were around him.
Sadly, the lessons written down for the enlightenment of the people of those days are often missed by current followers of Jesus. Now, I don't believe any of the supernatural stuff, but the lessons were often good ones. They're similar to the lessons taught by most religions, and teach concern for the scorned and downtrodden. What we can, and should, take from those lessons is that numbers don't matter as much as need. We should not attack those who are our "lessers," but should help them, instead.
So it is taught. But so, sadly, is it ignored. Jesus was supposed to have said, "Blessed are the poor. Blessed are the meek in spirit," and so on. Unfortunately, so many who claim to follow those teachings do the exact opposite. Not all of them, of course. Maybe not even a majority, but far too many scorn the poor, the meek, the lowly, the sick, and others. In some cases, too many go further, and act to kick them when they are down. Many others fail to protest when their fellow followers of those teachings treat the unfortunate and different with contempt or even threaten them.
Jesus was recorded to have confronted people like that. Those stories are also prominent in the Gospels. If you believe them, you will read that he despised hypocrites, scorned those who used religion to make money, and disputed openly with those who failed to do as he believed people should do. For that, and other reasons, it is said that he was put to death for pointing out the failings of the powerful. Stories designed to teach and inform are really common in the Gospels. They're widely ignored, unfortunately.
There are people even today who point out those hypocrisies. They, too, are scorned and attacked. They are told, "Only some Christians behave that way. Not me!" "Not me" is perhaps true, but can also be used to deny responsibility. When someone points out that some who call themselves Christians do not follow the recorded teachings of Jesus, the common response by some is to go on the attack against such statements. Rather than reflect on what is said, defensive postures are assumed and unusual or illogical arguments are often used.
That's too bad, I think. The things Jesus was supposed to have taught are good lessons. One can find similar lessons in most religious scriptures. However, such lessons, when they deal with the weak, sick, different, downtrodden or poor are often ignored, and those who ignore them are too often defended. It's a pity when that happens. It truly is.
Voltaire2
(13,213 posts)all that nonsense had been carefully compartmentalized, safely put on a shelf.
It's a religion that has served, for 1800 years, to keep the peasants in line waiting for a better life after death.
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)I'm more concerned, though, with the failure of people to protest when others with the same supposed beliefs do exactly the opposite of what was taught. That's the real problem, I think. Without protest, people believe they are behaving properly, I fear. Jesus was recorded to have been quite vocal about such things. It's a pity that more of his followers aren't, it seems to me.
msongs
(67,462 posts)MineralMan
(146,338 posts)Oh, yes:
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Clever man, that. Now, he may have or may not have actually said that, but the same is true of the accounts of what Jesus said. Nobody who knew him wrote down what he said, as far as anyone can demonstrate.
ExciteBike66
(2,385 posts)I prefer Steinbeck's Christ story to the original one...
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)Steinbeck recognized a different sort of Jesus than many Christians do. That symbolism in the book is striking. Even the initials of the character's name call out the symbolism.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,900 posts)If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it.
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)The Christian Right is neither.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)It wasn't directed at any of your posts.
It's important to note that there are good Christians out there, because I myself forget that sometimes. They're not all frauds like the ones who voted for Trump.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)best to follow Christ's word. Their altruism is inspiring. Needless to say, they did not vote for Trump.
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)Not at all. I'm talking about some Christians. I think I was clear on that in my post. I was careful to qualify my statements.
LakeArenal
(28,858 posts)The meek, the sick, the old and lowly are so by choice.
Also the: Are there no workhouses? Are there no prisons?
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)But, it is a message that forms the basis for a certain kind of politics we all recognize, and that makes it dangerous.