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muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:10 PM Jun 2018

Irish referendum on blasphemy expected to be held in October (plus "woman in the home")

The Cabinet has agreed that a referendum should be held later this year on removing the offence of blasphemy from the Constitution.
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It would likely take place at the same time as a referendum on changing a constitutional clause that prioritises a woman’s domestic role over work. The votes on the two topics and may coincide with a presidential election, if one takes place.

Voters will be asked whether Article 40.6.1 (i) should be retained in the Constitution. Blasphemy is defined as “matter that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, thereby causing outrage among a substantial number of the adherents of that religion”.

The Defamation Act 2009 made blasphemy a crime punishable by a €25,000 fine. As far back as 1991, the Law Reform Commission recommended that the offence of blasphemy be removed from the Constitution. The law came to prominence last year when a Garda inquiry began after a complaint was made over British actor and comedian Stephen Fry making critical comments about God during an interview on RTÉ. No prosecution was brought in the case.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/referendum-on-blasphemy-expected-to-be-held-in-october-1.3528286

Article 41.2 of the constitution says the Irish state “recognises that by her life within the home, woman gives to the state a support without which the common good cannot be achieved. The state shall, therefore, endeavour to ensure that mothers shall not be obliged by economic necessity to engage in labour to the neglect of their duties in the home.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/03/irish-feminists-target-women-in-the-home-clause-in-constitution
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Irish referendum on blasphemy expected to be held in October (plus "woman in the home") (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2018 OP
The Irish aren't playing n/t Soph0571 Jun 2018 #1
The secularization of Ireland. Iggo Jun 2018 #2
And the RCC is pissing its pants. trotsky Jun 2018 #8
blasphemy is how people insecure in their weak religion murder opponents/non believer nt msongs Jun 2018 #3
"Blasphemy" laws are nonsense AZ8theist Jun 2018 #4
Blasphemy laws are desperation measures to protect MineralMan Jun 2018 #5
Not to worry. I'm sure they'll find a way to delay legislation, no matter the result. For example. Pope George Ringo II Jun 2018 #6
Pretty much the last thing a representative democracy wants to do is represent Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #7

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
8. And the RCC is pissing its pants.
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:55 AM
Jun 2018

They've held sway in Ireland for so long, they were its de facto government. So many crimes that they covered up - they did it to themselves.

AZ8theist

(5,477 posts)
4. "Blasphemy" laws are nonsense
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 07:37 PM
Jun 2018

These so-called "laws" exist to protect idiots who are deathly afraid of their "beliefs" being questioned.

In the middle east, including Saudi Arabia (one of our "allies&quot citizens can get their heads chopped off for so-called "blasphemy".
Multiple states around the world have similar statutes.

ALL ARE IDIOTIC.

For one reason, and one reason only: If your religion was even REMOTELY TRUE (pick sub subject) You wouldn't need to kill people defending it. You could sit back, scoff at the unbelievers and continue on your merry way.

However, the architects of "anti-blasphemy" laws can't fucking stand it when someone questions their "belief" system. Therefore, they have to create laws to punish the "blasphemers". SICK, SICK, SICK religionists corrupting the greater good of mankind. Its' perverse.

The fact that these idiotic laws still exist in a supposedly advanced western state such as Ireland, make it all the more repugnant.

Voltaire2

(13,070 posts)
7. Pretty much the last thing a representative democracy wants to do is represent
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:47 AM
Jun 2018

the will of the people. That is not what they are paid for.

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