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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:57 PM Aug 2018

Some here post excerpts of articles. Others post their own thinking

and ideas. Both approaches are valid. Articles written by others are the ideas of those authors. Original posts are the ideas of the poster. Neither should be ignored. Still, it helps if those who post bits and pieces of articles provide some insights into what they took from someone else's writings. That helps promote discussion. Posts that are the ideas of the poster start from an individual perspective, so we know what the individual thinks.

When it comes to religion, everything is really opinion, isn't it?

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Some here post excerpts of articles. Others post their own thinking (Original Post) MineralMan Aug 2018 OP
What of Don Viejo's posts? guillaumeb Aug 2018 #1
Did I name any poster? MineralMan Aug 2018 #2
We all decide which approach to take. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #3
Do you suppose I'm talking about you? MineralMan Aug 2018 #5
Understood. eom guillaumeb Aug 2018 #6
Love you! 🤗 sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #16
I am simply an observer who is guillaumeb Aug 2018 #17
Here, let us have a refreshment in this gathering...🥂 sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #20
That beets the other responses. eom guillaumeb Aug 2018 #25
Speaking of beets, I make beet wedges or slices with a good quality horseradish and sour cream sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #26
I like beets any way that they are prepared. eom guillaumeb Aug 2018 #27
😘 sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #28
For those who cannot support their position, trotsky Aug 2018 #7
Oddly enough, I said that both approaches to posting are fine. MineralMan Aug 2018 #8
I guess you "hit a nerve." trotsky Aug 2018 #9
Well, I hit my "funny bone" nerve yesterday, too. MineralMan Aug 2018 #10
If the shoe fits... Lordquinton Aug 2018 #12
I looked in the Religion Group thread list for that name. MineralMan Aug 2018 #4
Waddaboudis? Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #11
Indeed, but a poor example. MineralMan Aug 2018 #13
No, simply pointing out the obvious inconsistency. eom guillaumeb Aug 2018 #14
Wuddaboudat? Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #15
The opinions I post here on DU are my own. hunter Aug 2018 #18
Yes. I post news stories sometimes, but MineralMan Aug 2018 #19
It's a variant on the "some people say" dodge marylandblue Aug 2018 #22
'Some people' are habitual users of the 'some people' saying. sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #29
Well it can also be an indirect way of commenting on behavior marylandblue Aug 2018 #30
My feathers get ruffled on occasion, sad to admit. But then they assume their order again. sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #31
I'm human, I get an occasional ruffle marylandblue Aug 2018 #32
True dat. I've reconsidered some posts and said nah, don't. sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #33
Thanks, MineralMan.. Permanut Aug 2018 #21
There are other catagories of course edhopper Aug 2018 #23
As I said, both approaches to posting are valid. MineralMan Aug 2018 #24
Good points. edhopper Aug 2018 #34

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. Did I name any poster?
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:59 PM
Aug 2018

My post is directed at all who post here. Why do you ask about an individual poster in response to a general comment?

Why begin a "whatabout" line of discussion before addressing the original post?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. We all decide which approach to take.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:03 PM
Aug 2018

Occasionally, I post a personal opinion, in religion as well as GD. I feel that either approach is fine.

sprinkleeninow

(20,252 posts)
26. Speaking of beets, I make beet wedges or slices with a good quality horseradish and sour cream
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 02:56 PM
Aug 2018

mixed in. Drain beets well. Adjust amt. of horseradish according to how much steam you want coming out yer ears! 😅

My other half loves these once a week. We're keeping the beet and horseradish farmers subsidized. Not schlumpy and his fake bailout. 😤

The Carpathian Slovaks love their beets. A Paschal/Easter traditional one is grated beets, splash of vinegar, some sugar, salt. A condiment, like picked beets. Purists cook fresh beets, not using commercial canned and grow their own horseradish. My Baba would make fresh horseradish sandwiches. A mild variety 'tho. Hoo-wee! 😂

Guillaume,

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
7. For those who cannot support their position,
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:31 PM
Aug 2018

whataboutism is a perfect tool for just about any occasion.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. Oddly enough, I said that both approaches to posting are fine.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:35 PM
Aug 2018

I did add that it helps if the poster adds commentary to an excerpt. I'm not sure why my post was taken personally, nor why some other poster's name was brought up as a "whatabout."

I guess someone thought that I was making a personal criticism. I wasn't, clearly.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. Well, I hit my "funny bone" nerve yesterday, too.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:54 PM
Aug 2018

I wasn't that amused, though.

Anyhow, I didn't call anyone out in my OP, but someone else called out an unconnected individual poster in a reply. I find the irony of that very interesting. The essence of whataboutism, that seems to me.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. I looked in the Religion Group thread list for that name.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:04 PM
Aug 2018

I found one thread started by the poster you name. I did not participate in that thread, due to the reason I mentioned in the post that begins this thread. I'm interested in the thoughts of those who participate here. If they are not present, I'm not likely to get involved in that thread, generally.

It's a discussion area. I like discussions with people who have ideas.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
13. Indeed, but a poor example.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:07 PM
Aug 2018

I didn't even remember that post from August 10. Why not address what I actually said? Odd.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
18. The opinions I post here on DU are my own.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 06:29 PM
Aug 2018

Why would I bother promoting the opinions of anyone else?



MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
19. Yes. I post news stories sometimes, but
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 07:26 PM
Aug 2018

Otherwise, I post opinions. Some people say, " Well, that's just your opinion," but then they post someone else's opinion like that's something different. Odd.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
22. It's a variant on the "some people say" dodge
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 12:08 AM
Aug 2018

The poster can use someone else's opinion in place of their own, but deny that it is fact their own, rather it's just an opinion of a random person on the internet.

sprinkleeninow

(20,252 posts)
29. 'Some people' are habitual users of the 'some people' saying.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 03:09 PM
Aug 2018

An not who you may think I yam making reference to.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
30. Well it can also be an indirect way of commenting on behavior
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 04:32 PM
Aug 2018

without violating the TOS or ruffling feathers too much.

sprinkleeninow

(20,252 posts)
31. My feathers get ruffled on occasion, sad to admit. But then they assume their order again.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 05:02 PM
Aug 2018

You... Yes? 🤗

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
32. I'm human, I get an occasional ruffle
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 05:54 PM
Aug 2018

But thinking before posting has saved me many embarrassing moments.

sprinkleeninow

(20,252 posts)
33. True dat. I've reconsidered some posts and said nah, don't.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 09:39 PM
Aug 2018

Not necessarily in this group. I've almost posted some scathing and obscenely rude stuff about tЯumpf then had a second thought. Well yes, even I veer into bigly uncharitable ruminating.😇

Permanut

(5,613 posts)
21. Thanks, MineralMan..
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 11:11 PM
Aug 2018

The structure of the threads here in Religion have been largely conducive to constructive discussion, and you have contributed greatly to that structure with your incisive and insightful posts.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
23. There are other catagories of course
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 09:43 AM
Aug 2018

News about Religion, or Religion and politics.
Then there are articles about things you either like and want to share, or think are not good and want to point out.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
24. As I said, both approaches to posting are valid.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 12:26 PM
Aug 2018

Generally, though, if someone posts a copy and paste excerpt from some other place, some comment on what was posted is always a good idea. Lacking that, and given the excerpt limits imposed by DU, it can be difficult to tell why someone posted what they posted. Adding a bit of one's own opinion adds to the post, I think.

Occasionally, too, someone posts parts of an article or story that don't really reflect the overall points made in the story at the link. While it would be nice if everyone clicked the link and read the entire story, that's an unrealistic expectation here. Often, people don't even bother to read an entire post before responding, so going to a link to read is uncommon.

Sometimes, what is excerpted doesn't even reflect or amplify the headline from the source. Selective copy and paste does not always align with the points made by the original author. It's an odd thing to click through and discover that an article actually says the opposite of the excerpt that was selected for posting. That's a frequent source of embarrassment for posters, who sometimes depend on readers not clicking to read the entire article. In such cases, I often wonder if the DUer even bothered to read the entire article before posting an excerpt.

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