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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 02:25 PM Aug 2018

From 'Judeo-Christian' to 'Potluck Nation,' Eboo Patel pleads for religious pluralism

From the article:

Eboo Patel, a Muslim social activist who was born in India, is best-known as the founder and president of the Interfaith Youth Core, a nonprofit organization that partners with some 500 American colleges and universities to work on interfaith programming.
Now he’s written a new book, “Out of Many Faiths: Religious Diversity and the American Promise” (Sept. 4), the third in a series of books by scholars addressing issues of diversity called “Our Compelling Interests.”
In it, he offers a passionate defense of American religious diversity as one of the seminal features of U.S. democracy, stretching back to the vision of the Founding Fathers, who he says got it “exactly right.” He also proposes a new narrative to replace the Judeo-Christian motto with “Potluck Nation,” which he thinks better describes today’s religious diversity.


To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2018/08/30/eboo-patel-wants-to-replace-judeo-christian-with-potluck-nation/
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From 'Judeo-Christian' to 'Potluck Nation,' Eboo Patel pleads for religious pluralism (Original Post) guillaumeb Aug 2018 OP
:shrug: MineralMan Aug 2018 #1
The author says when it comes to religious diversity the Founders got it "exactly right." trotsky Aug 2018 #2
I say that we have ample evidence today that they did NOT get it MineralMan Aug 2018 #3
The establishment clause, among other things, guillaumeb Aug 2018 #9
A pity that author has such a limited audience at that website. MineralMan Aug 2018 #4
What they got right was throwing off the yoke of organized religion Major Nikon Aug 2018 #7
Which contradicts MM's position. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #10
Fail Major Nikon Aug 2018 #12
No, you actually struck a discordant note. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #16
"contradict" doesn't mean what you think it means Major Nikon Sep 2018 #21
You really need a better dictionary. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #22
You failed reason along with literacy and logic Major Nikon Sep 2018 #23
Desperately searches RNS looking for anything Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #5
Well, that site is an extraordinarily weak source. MineralMan Aug 2018 #6
Your reponse might have been better, guillaumeb Aug 2018 #11
Just because you don't understand it, doesn't make it invalid Major Nikon Aug 2018 #15
Zero is zero from any direction. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #18
Batting 1000 with the imaginary fan club doesn't mean you made it off zero Major Nikon Sep 2018 #19
... Major Nikon Aug 2018 #13
Intolerance can be fought, guillaumeb Aug 2018 #8
Sure, because the most intolerant are always open to new ideas Major Nikon Aug 2018 #14
An intolerant remark on your part. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #17
Fail Major Nikon Sep 2018 #20

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
1. :shrug:
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 03:28 PM
Aug 2018

What do you take from this, guillaumeb? What do you want us to take from it? You posted it, so you must think it has value. Tell us what you think that value is, please.

I read the interview. I was unable to see anything in it that is in any way different from any other ecumenical, "multi-faith" reasoning. I'd ask the North American First Peoples what they thought of the invasion of their place by Christians. I'd ask, but most of them are long dead and their genetic line is almost gone, thanks to that invasion. How did they benefit?

When religious intolerance is the problem, how does bringing religions together solve the problem? Answer me that.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. The author says when it comes to religious diversity the Founders got it "exactly right."
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 03:33 PM
Aug 2018

I guess we aren't supposed to worry about the details - just respectfully praise religion as the solution to all the problems religion has caused or exacerbated.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
3. I say that we have ample evidence today that they did NOT get it
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 03:35 PM
Aug 2018

"exactly right." The "Christian" Right has proven that very well. They are working to make us all their vassals, and doing a pretty damned good job of it. A new Dark Ages is darkly rising. The first one was the work of another religious organization. Now, we face another.

We do not need more religion. We do not need unified religion. We need freedom from religious doctrine, altogether.

Feh!

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. The establishment clause, among other things,
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:56 PM
Aug 2018

shows that you are incorrect in your assessment of the US founders.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. What they got right was throwing off the yoke of organized religion
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 06:44 PM
Aug 2018

They created a secular nation that didn’t get its marching orders from organized religion and wasn’t the least concerned with hocus pocus voodoo and imaginary friends. While this seems like a no brainer today it was literally revolutionary at the time.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
16. No, you actually struck a discordant note.
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 05:38 PM
Sep 2018

And it is only a failure for you if you value harmony about logic.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
21. "contradict" doesn't mean what you think it means
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 07:44 PM
Sep 2018

So perhaps you'd best work on literacy before you move on to logic. Just sayin'

Meanwhile, once again....

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
23. You failed reason along with literacy and logic
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 08:28 AM
Sep 2018

Just because you assert something, doesn't make it so. I get that concept is difficult for you, but nonetheless bullshit has been called and your only answer is gibberish.

Voltaire2

(13,037 posts)
5. Desperately searches RNS looking for anything
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 05:50 PM
Aug 2018

that is not obviously deplorable, posts without any reflection, backfills desperately when content fails even superficial analysis.

Repeat.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
6. Well, that site is an extraordinarily weak source.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 06:22 PM
Aug 2018

It's open. I signed up to contribute to it. I haven't yet, but there's no vetting at all. Most of what is posted there is superficial.

But, you use what you have, I guess.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
19. Batting 1000 with the imaginary fan club doesn't mean you made it off zero
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 07:43 PM
Sep 2018

Your "reponse" (sic) needs some work.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. Intolerance can be fought,
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:55 PM
Aug 2018

and one way is to introduce different people, and hope that they will learn how much they have in common with each other.

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