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rug

(82,333 posts)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:41 PM May 2012

Judge rejects challenge of federal hate crime law by Amish defendants in beard-cutting attacks

By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, May 31, 3:35 PM

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The religious beliefs of victims of alleged beard- and hair-cutting attacks in Ohio Amish country are what matters in the case, not those of the defendants, a federal judge ruled Thursday in rejecting the defendants’ challenges of the federal hate crimes law.

The defendants, who include 16 members of an eastern Ohio breakaway Amish group, argued the alleged attacks last fall weren’t hate crimes but internal church disciplinary matters not involving anti-Amish bias. The defendants also argued that the federal hate crime law violates their First Amendment rights of religious expression.

U.S. District Court Judge Dan Polster said the defendants’ use of the First Amendment claim was offensive, given that the Constitution allows the defendants “to maintain their religious beliefs and practices, which are so different from the beliefs and practices of most Americans.”

“In fact, violent acts of the kind charged in the superseding indictment are designed to punish individuals who exercise their religious beliefs, or to chill others from doing so,” he wrote.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/judge-rejects-challenge-of-federal-hate-crime-law-by-amish-defendants-in-beard-cutting-attacks/2012/05/31/gJQADRDa4U_story.html

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Judge rejects challenge of federal hate crime law by Amish defendants in beard-cutting attacks (Original Post) rug May 2012 OP
The defendants may have a RELIGIOUS DUTY to "discipline" their members rocktivity May 2012 #1
Those Amish sure do get into a lot of legal cases, don't they. cbayer May 2012 #2
What I find interesting is that he holds the distinction of a hate crime from other crimes is rug May 2012 #3

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
1. The defendants may have a RELIGIOUS DUTY to "discipline" their members
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:57 PM
May 2012

but they don't have a LEGAL RIGHT to assault them.

A man who killed his estranged wife claimed he was within religious rights to do so. The courts did not agree, and allowed his murder trail to proceed.


rocktivity

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. Those Amish sure do get into a lot of legal cases, don't they.
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:00 PM
May 2012

This one is pretty interesting and I agree with the judge here (based on what I know so far).

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
3. What I find interesting is that he holds the distinction of a hate crime from other crimes is
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:57 PM
May 2012

the belief or protected class of the victims, not the defendants.

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