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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:32 AM Mar 2019

Woman Begs World to Shield Her 4 Catholic Sons From Legging-Clad Butts

In other religion news, we are reminded that it's often about control and keeping women in their place...

https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/notre-dame-mother-leggings-maryann-white-letter.html

In a letter to the editor published in the University of Notre Dame’s student newspaper, The Observer, this week, one mother pleaded for the women of the world, and of the Notre Dame campus more specifically, to please, please, wear looser pants. “I’m just a Catholic mother of four sons with a problem that only girls can solve,” Maryann White wrote. “Leggings.”

White’s four boys were recently exposed to the troubling image of clothed female butts during Mass at the Basilica on the Notre Dame campus, she explained. A group of young women — three? sixty? who’s to say — “all clad in clingy Spandex and short tops” sat in front of White and her brood, and some of them, “truly looked as though the leggings had been painted on them.” [*sign of the cross*]

I was ashamed for the young women at Mass. I thought of all the other men around and behind us who couldn’t help but see their behinds. My sons know better than to ogle a woman’s body — certainly when I’m around (and hopefully, also when I’m not). They didn’t stare, and they didn’t comment afterwards. But you couldn’t help but see those blackly naked rear ends. I didn’t want to see them — but they were unavoidable. How much more difficult for young guys to ignore them.


...The letter, predictably, prompted a wave of backlash. The Notre Dame student group Irish 4 Reproductive Health organized a Leggings Pride Day, writing on the event’s Facebook page that “while well-intentioned, White’s viewpoint perpetuates a narrative central to to rape culture in implying that womxn and girls are responsible for the actions and reactions of others.
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Woman Begs World to Shield Her 4 Catholic Sons From Legging-Clad Butts (Original Post) trotsky Mar 2019 OP
What would we do without organized religion keeping women in their place? Major Nikon Mar 2019 #1
Yeah but somebody made a movie that says Jesus had 2 female disciples. trotsky Mar 2019 #2
Then there's the instruction manual which commands women to be subservient to men Major Nikon Mar 2019 #4
And if I should decide to ask whatabout sexist atheists... trotsky Mar 2019 #6
Well yeah, there's that Major Nikon Mar 2019 #8
"Big butts trigger my overly horny boys who get stiffies in church". Funtatlaguy Mar 2019 #3
The American Taliban SHRED Mar 2019 #5
Those folks: "Women need to cover up, homosexuality is evil, and abortion should be illegal." trotsky Mar 2019 #7
Doublethink seems to be a defining feature for many religionists Major Nikon Mar 2019 #10
We all must learn self-control. delisen Mar 2019 #9
The world is a scary place Cartoonist Mar 2019 #11
Hate the sin, love the sinner Major Nikon Mar 2019 #12
Shot between the eyes? Well, it must have been simile to that. MineralMan Mar 2019 #14
Won't somebody do something? What is the world coming to? MineralMan Mar 2019 #13
One gathers the leggings have made too many ends too clear. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #22
Indeed. I guarantee that I will never be seen in leggings. MineralMan Apr 2019 #23
Butt, her editorials! Blue Owl Mar 2019 #15
... Lordquinton Mar 2019 #16
According to the Bible Mariana Mar 2019 #17
Since the poor young men can still see out of the other eye marylandblue Mar 2019 #18
I'd think the same instructions apply when one eye is already gone. Mariana Mar 2019 #19
Probably just a copyist error. I'll pencil that in. marylandblue Mar 2019 #20
Presumably, she believes those sons guilty of fornication merely for thinking of it. Ron Obvious Mar 2019 #21

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
1. What would we do without organized religion keeping women in their place?
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:38 AM
Mar 2019

Before you know it they will want to start having recreational sex and working outside the home.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. Yeah but somebody made a movie that says Jesus had 2 female disciples.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:40 AM
Mar 2019

So Christianity is totally not misogynist and you should stop saying that.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
4. Then there's the instruction manual which commands women to be subservient to men
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:45 AM
Mar 2019

But when folks actually follow the instruction manual we should stop talking about that too because some anonymous person on the interwebs metaphored that shit right out.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. And if I should decide to ask whatabout sexist atheists...
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:49 AM
Mar 2019

then that is totally not whataboutism because everyone should trust simplicable.com over some totally unreliable site like the Merriam Webster dictionary and besides I didn't *intend* to change the subject away from sexism in religion anyway, so there.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. Well yeah, there's that
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:53 AM
Mar 2019

As if this is the first time someone has come to the Religion group to piss on everyone's shoes and tell them it's raining.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
7. Those folks: "Women need to cover up, homosexuality is evil, and abortion should be illegal."
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:52 AM
Mar 2019

Also those folks: "Muslims want everyone to live according to the dictates of their religion!"

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. Doublethink seems to be a defining feature for many religionists
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 12:15 PM
Mar 2019

Too busy pointing fingers at others to be bothered with looking inward.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
11. The world is a scary place
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 12:49 PM
Mar 2019
I didn’t want to see them — but they were unavoidable.

I am reminded of a comment made by a homophobe I knew. He was complaining about the televised SF Pride parade. He described his horror at seeing a man's naked butt.

"It was like being shot between the eyes! "

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
12. Hate the sin, love the sinner
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 01:13 PM
Mar 2019

I hear this all the time from religionists as an answer to their obvious homophobia after their actions defy those words.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
14. Shot between the eyes? Well, it must have been simile to that.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 01:21 PM
Mar 2019

Although, I have to wonder how he knows what being shot between the eyes is actually like...

It's like someone saying, "This beer tastes like horse piss." Which calls for the question, "Really? You've tasted horse piss? How odd."

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
13. Won't somebody do something? What is the world coming to?
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 01:18 PM
Mar 2019

When will they make an end?

Lady, whatever you do, don't learn how to look at your sons' web browsing histories. I beg you!

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
17. According to the Bible
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:38 PM
Mar 2019

Jesus was aware of this kind of problem, and he gave instructions on how to deal with it.

"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire." Matthew 18 : 9

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
18. Since the poor young men can still see out of the other eye
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 07:01 PM
Mar 2019

plucking one out won't solve the problem, so they might as well keep both and enjoy the scenery on the ride down.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
19. I'd think the same instructions apply when one eye is already gone.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 07:07 PM
Mar 2019

After all, Jesus didn't go on to say, " ... unless you already have only one eye, in which case you are exempt."

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
21. Presumably, she believes those sons guilty of fornication merely for thinking of it.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:13 PM
Mar 2019

That seems to be standard Catholic doctrine.

Seems a silly way to go through life. I'd have spent virtually every waking hour in the confession booth back during the days of my teenage priapism. Glad I didn't grow up Catholic.

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