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Eugene

(61,974 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 11:11 PM Dec 2019

India braces for protests over citizenship bill excluding Muslims

Source: Agence France-Presse

India braces for protests over citizenship bill excluding Muslims

Agence France-Presse
Tue 10 Dec 2019 00.38 GMT

India’s lower house has passed controversial legislationthat will grant citizenship to religious minorities from neighbouring countries, but not Muslims, amid raucous scenes in parliament and protests in the country’s north-east.

The citizenship amendment bill provides that Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis, and Christians fleeing persecution in Muslim-majority Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan can be granted citizenship.

It comfortably passed the lower house with 311 votes in favour and 80 against just after midnight on Tuesday. The legislation seeks to amend the Citizenship Act of 1955, which prohibits illegal migrants from applying for Indian citizenship.

“This bill is in line with India’s centuries-old ethos of assimilation and belief in humanitarian values,” the prime minister, Narendra Modi, tweeted, adding that he was “delighted” about its passage.

But to Muslim organisations, rights groups and others the bill is part of Modi’s push to marginalise India’s Islamic minority of 200 million people.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/10/india-braces-for-protests-over-citizenship-bill-excluding-muslims
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India braces for protests over citizenship bill excluding Muslims (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2019 OP
Modi is simply an Indian fascist. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #1
From the article: trotsky Dec 2019 #2
We both know. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #3
The answer to one affects how we assess the other. trotsky Dec 2019 #4
Intolerance. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #5
Also crucial is to note how intolerance is often codified, taught, and perpetuated. trotsky Dec 2019 #6
They are important. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #7
But here in the Religion group, it's quite appropriate to talk about the religious aspects. trotsky Dec 2019 #8
Of course it is. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #9
Yes, it's been noted. trotsky Dec 2019 #10
Explain how your reference to straw men fits here. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #11
Your line: "will you insist that religion is uniquely culpable" trotsky Dec 2019 #12
I asked a question. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #13
I knew you wouldn't apologize. trotsky Dec 2019 #14
He is deeply religious. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #15
Agreed, but politically, he is a fascist. eom guillaumeb Dec 2019 #16
No he is a theocratic authoritarian nationalist. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #17

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. Modi is simply an Indian fascist.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:42 AM
Dec 2019

His Islamophobia echoes that found in China, and in much of Europe, and in some sectors of the US.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. From the article:
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 02:40 PM
Dec 2019
The law would make it much easier for Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsees and Christians fleeing Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan to be given Indian citizenship.


Why are Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsees, and Christians fleeing those countries?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. The answer to one affects how we assess the other.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 03:11 PM
Dec 2019

So what is the reason those religious groups are fleeing the listed countries?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. Also crucial is to note how intolerance is often codified, taught, and perpetuated.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 03:43 PM
Dec 2019

I think those are important elements in combating intolerance. Do you?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. They are important.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 04:03 PM
Dec 2019

But crucial to actual understanding is not the particulars of each case of intolerance, but that intolerance seems to be an inescapable aspect of tribalism.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
8. But here in the Religion group, it's quite appropriate to talk about the religious aspects.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 04:17 PM
Dec 2019

Why do you refuse to acknowledge that, in the one place where it's decidedly on topic? Why do you instead always whatabout pivot to try and blame humanity in general?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. Of course it is.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 04:21 PM
Dec 2019

But when blaming religion, or lack of, or nationality, or language, or any other factor particular to any individual instance of intolerance, we must acknowledge that intolerance seems to be an inescapable part of humanity.

Do you agree?

Or will you insist that religion is uniquely culpable?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
10. Yes, it's been noted.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 05:04 PM
Dec 2019

And there are infinite groups on DU in which to discuss different aspects of intolerance.

Here is where we talk about the religious ones. Not your straw men.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. Explain how your reference to straw men fits here.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 05:10 PM
Dec 2019

Or not, as you wish.

If you ever find posts explaining that theists are not intolerant, or that they do not use religion as an excuse for intolerance, please point them out.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
12. Your line: "will you insist that religion is uniquely culpable"
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 05:20 PM
Dec 2019

I have never, ever taken that position.

That's your straw man.

The nice thing to do would be apologize to me, and retract the smear.

But you won't do that.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
14. I knew you wouldn't apologize.
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 09:03 AM
Dec 2019

It is a poor reflection on your religion to see that this is how you think a follower of Jesus should behave.

Hope you're proud.

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