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Related: About this forumArmy Chaplain Holds Christian Prayer During Suicide Prevention Class, Soldiers Say
During an Army-wide stand down for suicide prevention sessions, a Christian chaplain in Texas improperly led rookie soldiers in a candlelight prayer, an Army instructor said in a formal complaint last week.
Staff Sgt. Victoria Gettman, a lab technician instructor at Fort Sam Houston, told The Huffington Post that she was among 800 soldiers from the 264th Medical Battalion undergoing resilience training on Sept. 26. Almost all of the soldiers were fresh out of boot camp and in training for their first job in the Army.
After a 45-minute talk on how to cope with stress, the officer in charge turned the stage over to a chaplain for the sometimes controversial "spiritual fitness" part of the session.
Gettman did not catch the chaplain's name, and he has not been otherwise publicly identified. But as an atheist, she wasn't interested in what he had to say so she stood up and moved to the back of the auditorium. The 17-year Army veteran knew -- unlike the young soldiers -- that this part of the program was optional. Still, she could hear most of what the clergyman said from just outside the room.
"The chaplain said we have to have something bigger than ourselves. We need, and he stresses need, to have something divine in our life," she recounted, adding that the soldiers were not informed they were allowed to step out.
Gettman said the chaplain ordered the lights turned off and battery-operated candles passed around as the soldiers were told to bow their heads. "The entire theater was forced into a mass Christian prayer," she said. "I heard him refer to his 'Heavenly Father' and 'Lord.'"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/military-proselytizing-army-chaplain_n_1930703.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false
Staff Sgt. Victoria Gettman, a lab technician instructor at Fort Sam Houston, told The Huffington Post that she was among 800 soldiers from the 264th Medical Battalion undergoing resilience training on Sept. 26. Almost all of the soldiers were fresh out of boot camp and in training for their first job in the Army.
After a 45-minute talk on how to cope with stress, the officer in charge turned the stage over to a chaplain for the sometimes controversial "spiritual fitness" part of the session.
Gettman did not catch the chaplain's name, and he has not been otherwise publicly identified. But as an atheist, she wasn't interested in what he had to say so she stood up and moved to the back of the auditorium. The 17-year Army veteran knew -- unlike the young soldiers -- that this part of the program was optional. Still, she could hear most of what the clergyman said from just outside the room.
"The chaplain said we have to have something bigger than ourselves. We need, and he stresses need, to have something divine in our life," she recounted, adding that the soldiers were not informed they were allowed to step out.
Gettman said the chaplain ordered the lights turned off and battery-operated candles passed around as the soldiers were told to bow their heads. "The entire theater was forced into a mass Christian prayer," she said. "I heard him refer to his 'Heavenly Father' and 'Lord.'"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/military-proselytizing-army-chaplain_n_1930703.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false
Can we all at least agree that christian fundamentalists in this country are NOT just some vocal minority, but are a serious problem that needs to be dealt with?
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Army Chaplain Holds Christian Prayer During Suicide Prevention Class, Soldiers Say (Original Post)
cleanhippie
Oct 2012
OP
It seems some religions have no problem stepping on religious rights of others
Angry Dragon
Oct 2012
#2
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)1. Shit, they were doing that garbage when I was in.
Every Sunday for the first 3-4 weeks you were forced to go to "church" and during ceramony you HAD to bow your head.
atreides1
(16,079 posts)3. I went to church while in basic training
It was the only way I could get some sleep...
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)2. It seems some religions have no problem stepping on religious rights of others
msongs
(67,420 posts)4. "some" religions believe others have NO religious rights of any sort nt