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http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/02/christians-year-of-living-gay-leads-to-dramatic-change-sparks-controversy/December 2nd, 2012
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Christians year of living 'gay' leads to dramatic change, sparks controversy
By Dan Merica, CNN
Washington (CNN) - Timothy Kureks motivation to spend a year pretending to be gay can be boiled down to a simple conviction: it takes drastic change to alter deeply held religious beliefs.
The experiment began after a lesbian friend opened up to Kurek about being excommunicated by her family. All Kurek, an avowed evangelical Christian, could think about, he says, was trying to convert her.
He was quickly disgusted by his own feelings, more pious than humane.
In fact, Kurek was so disgusted by his response to his friend that he decided to do something drastic. Living in Nashville, Tennessee, he would pretend to be gay for a year. The experiment began on the first day of 2009; Kurek came out to his family, got a job as a barista at a gay café and enlisted the help of a friend to act as his boyfriend in public.
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Deep13
(39,154 posts)Frankly, if I knew him, I would feel like I could never take his word for anything ever again.
I haven't read the book, but his remarks in the article suggest that he used others to address concerns he had about his own faith etc. It was all about him. It reminds me that socially repressive policies that religious people support inevitably require others to pay the costs of the proponent's faith. People who oppose gay marriage on religious grounds require others to suffer by being denied marriage for the sake of the opponent's religious faith. Same here. He used others, people in the gay community and his family and friends, in order to address his own doubts.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)I can understand the irritation of some of his friends over the course of his "experiment." No one likes to be a "subject" or be gamed and lied to. Maybe he would have been better off just keeping it real...?
I also have an uneasy feeling about him appointing himself as the "explainer" of All Things Gay to the Bigoted Evangelical Community. I'm sure he means well, I just am a bit put off by the way he went about this little "experiment" -- he had to use a few folks to tell this tale.
Eh, whatever. If he changes a mind or two, that is a good thing.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)where no one knew him previously? It's been awhile, but that is my vague recollection.
This is a tough one. While I, like you, see the value of building some bridges, the duplicity here bothers me.
MADem
(135,425 posts)The BLM guy kept moving, on buses and hitchhiking, IIRC, and his "experiment" only lasted for six weeks...and he duped the people he came in contact with, as well, if I am not mistaken.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Of course, you couldn't do that with a change in skin color.
MADem
(135,425 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts).... an atheist!
He can see the prejudice there. Boy will he be surprised at where and who it comes from.... and how it manifests itself.
msongs
(67,453 posts)pinto
(106,886 posts)It would seem more upfront to simply develop honest friendships with gays in his community. And to be upfront about those friendships with his family. He could have probably gained whatever personal, familial, religious insights he was looking for in a more genuine sense.
His call, though.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)His solution was simple. Invite two couples over for dinner, one straight and one gay. Don't make anyone's sexuality a part of the agenda at all, just have dinner so people can see all the similarities.
It's much harder to hate people you know.
pinto
(106,886 posts)It was dinner...duh.
In those days I had to do some weekend events. One Sunday I got home and did the usual "How was your day?". He said "I went over to Phil and Martha's house, had some snacks and watched part of the Steelers' game".
The big "issue" ? They were rooting for different teams...he was a big Pittsburgh fan.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)For many, the lack of exposure to gay couples in their day to day lives is one of the biggest problems. When some of our favorite couples come to visit, we initially see people squirm a bit, but it takes very little for that to disappear.
We will get there, just not sure this guy's approach is the best way to do it. But, then again, could he have invited a gay couple to his grandma's house for dinner unless he had *come out*? Maybe not.
Exen Trik
(103 posts)The results are obviously mixed. There is definitely a negative side to it all, with all his interactions before and after being utterly false, and coming out that second time hurt them all. But he did mean to empathize for homosexuals and to come to understand them, and I can't fault him for that. And the initial disgust at his conditioned reaction definitely reflects well on it.
The better thing to have done though, was the immersion without the lie. Go to the gay communities and involve himself, hang out and adapt to their society but be honest about the reasons for doing so. I think they'd have been ok with it. He wouldn't get the response of family to coming out first hand, but all he would need to do is listen to the stories of others.
Maybe that could be a path others will take. I'd like to see it.