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Related: About this forumScouts and guides consider adopting atheist oaths
Associations consult members over possible introduction of non-religious pledge, which would aim to raise diversity
Monday 3 December 2012
Peter Walker, The Guardian
Since 1908, when Robert Baden-Powell laid down the rules for his nascent movement in Scouting for Boys, new Scouts and Guides have made the traditional three-finger salute and promised to not just help others but remain loyal to a deity or higher power. Now, for the first time, the self-professed godless could also be welcome.
The Scout Association has launched a consultation to gauge support among members for an alternate atheist Scout promise, removing the invocation of a deity. At the same time, the Guide Association, the parallel movement which began two years later, is to launch a consultation about its very similar promise, with views sought on all parts of the wording from early January.
The current version of the Scout promise reads: "On my honour, I promise that I will do my best to do my duty to God and to the Queen, to help other people and to keep the Scout law."
The reference to God is deemed usable for most religions, although there have been options such as Allah for Muslims or "my Dharma" for Buddhists for more than 40 years. Those in other countries promise duty to their own nation or monarch.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/04/scouts-guides-consider-atheist-oaths
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Typical. After the war on christmas we can have a war on Scouting! Alert Foxnews!!!!!!!
cbayer
(146,218 posts)sense that this move is being made to accommodate and acknowledge atheists.
I don't see how that could be a problem.
And I think the recognition of atheists is long overdue and anything that does that is a net positive for all of us.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Where, if you are atheist, you're out! If you are gay? Buh-bye!
BSA. Essentially, in the past, run by the church of LDS, who are huge contributors.
I was an Eagle in the very early 60's. If I still had that award I would send it back. Shame on BSA. Shame!
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Interesting how different they are from the Girl Scouts and from their UK counterpart.
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)but of course, Girl Scouts USA has always had an open-door policy.