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rug

(82,333 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 06:57 PM Jun 2013

Adelaide's war of religious words reaches a new height

Christians and atheists are ramping up their messages in the battle for hearts and minds in the City of Churches

Max Anderson in Adelaide
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 18 June 2013 23.17 EDT

The gentle pace of Adelaide's Rundle Mall resembled the more extreme pockets of Speaker's Corner in London's Hyde Park as evangelical preachers harangued shoppers who didn't love Jesus enough, threatening extra hell-fire for the sins of women, homosexuals and Muslims. The group was silenced after a year-long spectacle when the high court ruled to uphold a council by-law requiring proselytisers of any message to seek permission to spruik on public byways.

But now atheism has taken to the streets in Australia's City of Churches with the state's "first active atheist group in 40 years" forming in February to take direct action.

Founder of Atheism SA, Brian Morris, 68, says certain elements within Adelaide's government, judiciary and media are steeped in the religious cultural tradition, deferring to a "vocal rump" of religious groups. He's especially suspicious of powerful evangelical churches like Paradise (based in Adelaide), Hillsong and Access Ministry, whose leaders "seem to carry a tremendous amount of weight".

"We're not interested in sitting around debating whether God exists or not," says Morris. "It's a dead argument anyway. Our aim is to take an active role in a vast range of social issues being dominated by the Christian lobby groups – issues like euthanasia, marriage equality and the teaching of evangelism in schools."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/19/adelaide-religion-atheism-australia

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spruik [ˈspruːɪk]
vb
(intr) Austral archaic slang to speak in public (used esp of a showman or salesman)
[of unknown origin]
spruiker n
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Adelaide's war of religious words reaches a new height (Original Post) rug Jun 2013 OP
If spruik doesn't go back to German sprechen or Dutch spreken, I'm astonished. dimbear Jun 2013 #1
It stumped etymology online. rug Jun 2013 #2
Good LeftishBrit Jun 2013 #3
Kevin Rudd was also a devout Christian but didn't seek his on everyone. SwissTony Jun 2013 #4
Unfortunately given the dismal performance uriel1972 Jun 2013 #5

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
1. If spruik doesn't go back to German sprechen or Dutch spreken, I'm astonished.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 07:22 PM
Jun 2013

Just as spiel goes straight to German. Maybe not straight, maybe a little bend through Yiddish.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. It stumped etymology online.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jun 2013
spruik
1916, of unknown origin.


http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=spruik+&searchmode=none

But wikiquotes suggests you're right.

Etymology
Unknown, likely Germanic – compare Dutch spraak (“speech”).


http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spruik

You have a good ear.

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
3. Good
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:24 AM
Jun 2013

And good that they are not bogged down in debating whether God exists, but in combatting the religious right. I would hope that some religious people would also be interested in doing so.

Australia, historically and in many ways still, a secular country, is ONE parliamentary seat away from having a Christian-Right Prime Minister, the revolting 'Mad Monk' Tony Abbott. With any luck this won't happen, but it shouldn't even be a danger in a place like Australia. So often 'these things never happen here' - until they do; and I speak here from bitter local experience at the other end of the world from Australia.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
4. Kevin Rudd was also a devout Christian but didn't seek his on everyone.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:32 AM
Jun 2013

I have no such confidence with Abbott.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
5. Unfortunately given the dismal performance
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jun 2013

of our local Labor party, PM Tony Abbott, is a distinct likelihood. /sigh

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