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rug

(82,333 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 08:42 PM Aug 2013

Religions asking if test-tube burgers allow them to keep the faith

By Tom Heneghan, Religion Editor
PARIS | Fri Aug 9, 2013 1:50pm EDT

(Reuters) - When the world's first test-tube beef burger was cooked and eaten this week, food critics all asked about its taste. For many Jews, Muslims and Hindus, the first question was whether their faith allowed them to try it.

Religious websites were abuzz with questions and opinions this week after biologist Mark Post of Maastricht University presented his innovation to the media in London on Monday.

"Is the lab-created burger kosher?" the Hasidic Jewish movement Chabad Lubavitch asked on its website.

Dietary laws exist in many religions, but came about so long ago that not even their prophets could have imagined a ready-to-fry beef patty grown in-vitro from the stem cells of a cow.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/09/us-science-meat-religion-idUSBRE9780V020130809

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Religions asking if test-tube burgers allow them to keep the faith (Original Post) rug Aug 2013 OP
Just do not ask about the Soylent Green. longship Aug 2013 #1
Oh geez, I googled that. rug Aug 2013 #2
Sorry, my friend. longship Aug 2013 #3
The latter. rug Aug 2013 #5
LOL. okasha Aug 2013 #8
That was a great movie! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #9
I must say, when I listened to the NPR report I was thinking something similar. Igel Aug 2013 #4
I'm interested in the vegetarian religions' response, such as Hindus and Buddhists. rug Aug 2013 #6
This is a fascinating question and I have been posing it to people I talk with. cbayer Aug 2013 #7

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Sorry, my friend.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:04 PM
Aug 2013

The question is. Did you Google "Soylent Green" or "long pig"?

Both basically take you to the same place though.

Again, I apologize if I offended.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
5. The latter.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:06 PM
Aug 2013

One picture was enough.

No offense at all. Actually, I'm glad I have a residual capacity for shock. Some days I wonder.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
8. LOL.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 04:02 PM
Aug 2013

I think I first ran across the phrase in National Geographic a few decades ago. This is one of the few occasions when the puke smiley is appropriate.

Igel

(35,281 posts)
4. I must say, when I listened to the NPR report I was thinking something similar.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:04 PM
Aug 2013

Less about the faux-beef burger. It's grown from animals with hoofs that chew cud, and, well, I'm Xian with no ties, ancestral or otherwise, to Judaism and don't worry about all the Talmudic restrictions on slaughtering practices. Still, part of the problem with the patty made was the lack of fat and since they grew it from muscle cells it also lacked any blood whatsoever.

No life. As far as I'm concerned it's animal-based textured vegetable protein. I was curious about how the various Judaisms would handle it. Lubovitcher and Hasidim will say "no". Conservative ... probably say no. Liberal Judaism doesn't much care already. Heck, as an undergrad the irony wasn't lost on my friends that I was the one eating the matzoh and beef during Passover while they--mostly Jews--were having the nice ham and cheese on nice fluffy white.

No, what I was pondering was whether meat grown from pig cells would be Biblically clean. Grown from animals that don't do the cud-chewing thang, it nonetheless grew and, as it grew, lacked feet of any kind and no teeth or esophagus (much less the multiplicity of bovine "stomachs&quot .

Note that there's already the whole gelatin problem. Gelatin is so processed that you really can't tell what animal's bones and cartilage it was made from. So there's kosher gelatin (Royal used to be) but Jell-O isn't. There's not universal buy-in, though, to requiring that little koph-in-a-circle symbol on gelatin, esp. if it's baked in some other product.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
6. I'm interested in the vegetarian religions' response, such as Hindus and Buddhists.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 09:10 PM
Aug 2013

The belief is not simply about dietary dictates or methods of slaughter but about the nature of life and soul.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
7. This is a fascinating question and I have been posing it to people I talk with.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 01:41 PM
Aug 2013

Most think that it would be ok to eat these meats if they never came from an animal. That opinion has been consistent with both observant jewish and muslim friends (who look forward to having a BLT sometime in the future!)

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