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Ian David

(69,059 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:15 PM Feb 2012

Mormons secretly baptize Holocaust victim and Nazi hunter Simon Weisenthal’s parents

Mormons secretly baptize Holocaust victim and Nazi hunter Simon Weisenthal’s parents

So the Mormons have now attempted to steal the souls of the parents of famed Nazi hunter, the late Simon Weisenthal, just like they tried to steal the soul of thousands of victims of the Holocaust, including Anne Frank, and even such people as Barack Obama's late mother, who was "conicidentally" baptized only months before the 2008 presidential election. From NPR:


{T}he discovery in 1992 of the names of thousands of victims of the holocaust prompted protests from Jewish groups and a series of meetings between Jewish and Mormon leaders.

The Mormon Church responded by promising to purge its baptism rolls of holocaust victims and urge members to limit baptisms to relatives. But the unwelcome baptisms continued.

"This is an issue that doesn't go away," Cooper says. "There needs to be internal reflection on the [Mormon] thinking that takes names like Anne Frank, Elie Wiesel and Simon Wiesenthal's parents and says, 'these souls have to be saved.'"

Genealogical researchers discovered in Mormon baptism records the name of Anne Frank, the Jewish girl who chronicled her family's hiding from the Nazis before being captured and sent to Auschwitz.

The Wiesenthal Center says the father and grandfather of Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel were recently listed in a Mormon database that makes them available for baptism. Wiesel survived Auschwitz but his father died there before the concentration camp was liberated.


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catbyte

(34,402 posts)
3. They did it all the time until Jewish people told them to stop
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:37 PM
Feb 2012

Some think Willard may have engaged in that too because he was an elder before the LDS said they would stop. Didn't he do that to his atheist father-in-law after he died? This was the mid to late 1990's I think.

They've still been caught doing it, though. How arrogant, presumptuous and disrespectful can you get?!?

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
4. Baptizing dead non-mormons is one of their holiest "sacraments". It's the entire impetus behind
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:42 PM
Feb 2012

their interest in genealogy.

They had to have something to take the place of polygamy. This is it.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
10. How would being posthumously baptized actually affect you?
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 02:56 AM
Feb 2012

If they're right, you get a 'get out of hell free' card.
If they're wrong, nothing has changed except for a meaningless notation in some random person's record of you.

qazplm

(3,626 posts)
5. it's a weird conceit
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 04:07 PM
Feb 2012

assume the Mormon's version of an afterlife is correct. At that point, a dead soul would know that, and one assumes would then sign on.

Why would they need a retroactive baptism?

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
6. I'm out of the loop. You're all talking about one of those sci-fi cults, am I right?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:34 PM
Feb 2012

Please explain the geneaology thing for me

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
11. It's no more a sci-fi cult than the other Christian sects.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 03:06 AM
Feb 2012

All three of the Abrahamic religions have sects that believe weird things, and the Mormon beliefs are no weirder than some of the others.

The genealogy thing is based on the belief that a soul can be 'saved' after death by posthumous baptism--basically, the soul of the non-Mormon dead person, by being baptized in absentia, is given a chance to go to heaven.

From the LDS perspective, it's a very generous practice.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
14. On a Pascal's Wager basis, it can't hurt, and probably won't help
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:55 AM
Feb 2012

But if the Mormon's are right, then it is a really good thing.

So the very low probability of Mormon's being right times the infinite benefit if they are = infinite benefit.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
8. If this helps to make Willard look bad (or worse than he already does)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:23 AM
Feb 2012

then at least some good will have come of it.

(I wonder if it's possible to posthumously unbaptize a Mormon.)

 

Liora24

(34 posts)
9. Disgusting
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:33 AM
Feb 2012

I think they're doing this for publicity reasons. It is a terrible way to get publicity and it's offensive too.

If there is a heaven, I would think that someone like Anne Frank or Simon Wiesenthal would get into it even if they weren't baptised.

 

MarkCharles

(2,261 posts)
13. It amazes me constantly what religious folks...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:59 AM
Feb 2012

actually make up and then they actually believe it!!!

frebrd

(1,736 posts)
15. What the hell is it with these people?
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:55 PM
Feb 2012

They're batshit crazy - not to mention arrogant!

We really need one of those in the White House.

ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
18. This is a strange but harmless practice
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 04:33 PM
Feb 2012

Compared to the other things about Mormonism this is pretty far down the list of things I'd be bothered by with them.

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