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icymist

(15,888 posts)
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 11:07 PM Jul 2014

Draugadrottin

Continuing with my exploration of the Names of Odin in alphabetical order, He doesn’t have many heiti, or by-names, beginning with the letter D. However, the one we'll be discussing today is among my favorites of all of His names anyway because it tells us so much about the essence of who and what He is. It is generally translated as meaning “Lord of the Dead.” Lets break it down, though, and see if we can learn more from it than that.

The drottin part of the name means chieftain, or lord, and has a cognate in the Anglo-Saxon drihten. The particular connotation here is that of a military lord, the leader of a war band (from Proto-Germanic *druti). This implies the sort of kingship portrayed in Beowulf, for example; not necessarily a hereditary role, but one decreed by merit and ability, the man who is elevated to kingship because other men look to him and trust in his abilities, the ring giver and keeper of the web of oaths that tie a war band, a tribe, or a people together.

The other half of the name, drauga, means the dead, but here again a particular type of dead person is implied. In Germanic belief, the “ordinary” dead go to Helheim, where they are perhaps reunited with their loved ones and have a period of rest and rejuvenation prior to being reborn or going on about whatever work lies before them between lifetimes. Some dead, in my belief, go to the abodes of the gods they have served during life if those connections are strong enough and if the god desires their continued service and companionship. The Poetic Edda and Snorri’s Edda alike tell us that the battlefield dead are divided between Odin and Freyja, with Frejya getting first pick. (Ladies first, after all.)

But the draugr (singular) is in a category all his own. As depicted again and again in the Icelandic sagas, the draugar (plural) are “walkers” or “those who walk again after death.”

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Draugadrottin (Original Post) icymist Jul 2014 OP
I thought I knew a bit about Germanic paganism, but this Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #1
I think I can answer this.... De Leonist Aug 2014 #2
Thank you. That was a great explanation. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #3
Hi. Sorry that I've been away for a while. icymist Aug 2014 #4

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. I thought I knew a bit about Germanic paganism, but this
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:11 PM
Aug 2014

is the first I've heard of a belief in reincarnation. Can you give me some leads on where you got it?

De Leonist

(225 posts)
2. I think I can answer this....
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 03:03 AM
Aug 2014

If you read through the Poetic Edda you will find what some call the 3 Helgi lays. Which speak of (if my memory serves correctly) three different heros named Helgi. The second is descended from the first and the third from the second. The Viking Age Norse believed that certain "qualities" as well as obligations were bequeathed and passed on after one's death. Signs of this belief is present in the structure of those lays. However because of how certain translations are worded some have attempted to used this as evidence for belief in reincarnation among The Pagan Norse. One author especially notorious for this is Eddred Thorsson, a Norse Neo-Pagan writer.

Problem is though the chances of that being true are very slim. Especially when you look at the archaeological evidence. What the grave goods that are found speak of is actually the opposite. They didn't believe the dead were truly "dead". That life of some kind was still to be had in the grave, or more likely in many instances, the family burial mound. A good example of what I'm talking about. The abundance of what at the time of burial were perfectly good metal tools and weapons. Many of them good quality steel, well for that epoch anyway. When you consider the amount of work and effort necessary to make even a simple usable knife back than as good quality ore was not easily available you realize that there is a good chance that they saw those grave goods as being something that the dead person needed. This is exactly the opposite of a culture that believes the body is simply just an empty shell after death. Now another option as to the "reincarnation" thing is the AllFather's role as a God of the Dead. Probably in a necromantic sense than in what we think of reincarnation.

If you want a good read on the subject of death and the afterlife amongst the Viking Age Norse you should read The Road to Hel. It's a bit dated but it's damn good.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. Thank you. That was a great explanation.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 10:30 AM
Aug 2014

I'm familiar with Thorsson and don't think much of his work. A lot of it is based on a silly and quite inauthentic late-19th century German "revival" of Germanic paganism.

BTW, a long time ago I wrote a book on the runes called The Enchanted Alphabet in which I tried to trace the rune meanings back to their earliest meanings, and explored the psychosocial background in which they arose. It's been out of print for a long time, but you can usually find a decent copy on Amazon if you look for it.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
4. Hi. Sorry that I've been away for a while.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 11:58 PM
Aug 2014

I like to post occasional articles for my Norse religious friends. This article popped up in my email (Witches and Pagans subscription) and I shared it here. The explanation that De Leonist provided is outstanding!

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