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UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:45 PM Dec 2013

Bishop Tobin strikes again - this time, blasting Mandela's support for abortion bill

The Most Rev. Thomas J. Tobin, Bishop of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Providence, today offered the following statement regarding the death of Nelson Mandela.

“Many people around the world and in our own nation are mourning the loss of former South African President Nelson Mandela. Indeed there is much to admire in Mandela’s long life and public service, particularly his personal courage and his stalwart defense of human rights.

There is part of President Mandela’s legacy, however, that is not at all praiseworthy, namely his shameful promotion of abortion in South Africa. In 1996 Mandela promoted and signed into law the “Choice on Termination of Pregnancy Bill” that, according to the New York Times, “replaced one of the world’s toughest abortion laws with one of the most liberal.”

While we pray for the peaceful repose of President Mandela’s immortal soul and the forgiveness of his sins, we can only regret that his noble defense of human dignity did not include the youngest members of our human family, unborn children.”




http://www.diocesepvd.org/12-08-13-statement-of-bishop-tobin-on-the-death-of-nelson-mandela/
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Bishop Tobin strikes again - this time, blasting Mandela's support for abortion bill (Original Post) UrbScotty Dec 2013 OP
I wonder if hell find anything shameful about de Klerk when he dies. rug Dec 2013 #1
Bishop Tobin, shut up. (N/T) Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2013 #2
And we'll pray for the peaceful repose of your soul and the forgiveness of your sins, Bishop Tobin. No Vested Interest Dec 2013 #3
Better get busy on that now; time's a'wasting. IrishAyes Dec 2013 #4
Bishop Tobin needs to clean up his own backyard first. IrishAyes Dec 2013 #5
Oh God Bishop, shut the f--- up. 47of74 Dec 2013 #6
what do we know about Tobin? rustbeltvoice Dec 2013 #7
I wish the church could go back to local election of Bishops 47of74 Dec 2013 #8

rustbeltvoice

(430 posts)
7. what do we know about Tobin?
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:02 PM
Dec 2013

Before coming to Rhode Island, he had been in Youngstown, and before that Pittsburgh. How was he remembered there?

I have come to the belief, that, the United States has a lousy contingent of bishops, perhaps the worst on the planet. The one that has devastated my diocese (Cleveland) is Richard Lennon. I have two personal questions that i want answers to from him, the first is "Why did you become a priest?".

These church administrators have become part of the Republican party. Tobin publicly announced his change of party to the Rhody Young Republicans, but he is not alone in this sort of partisanship. He is a pastor that does not like his sheep.

Tobin has criticised our present pope. Francis does not measure up to Tobin's standards. Francis has a theology and pastorate beyond the pelvic issues. Perhaps, there is more that bishops like Tobin, Burke, and Chaput do not approve of in Francis.

It is true that many people have a monomania concerning abortion. And i have seen, it is not embarrassed with instances of hypocrisy, and in US politics this is used for the advantage of the Republican party, but this is but a small issue in Republican governmental concern.

Now, with this political critical obituary that Tobin has issued, will he issue others of a critical nature? If he is bishop when a bush, rumsfeld, rice, or cheney and any of his minions die, will Tobin mention any of their grave sins? Somehow, i think Republicans get a pass.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
8. I wish the church could go back to local election of Bishops
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 06:31 PM
Dec 2013

I wish the church could go back to the system that existed in the first centuries of the church where the Bishops were elected by the local community. It wouldn't solve all the problems, but I think we might get Bishops who are concerned with things other than what people do with their genitals.

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