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Behind the Aegis

(53,967 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 04:34 PM Sep 2018

(Jewish Group) Jewish concern over Corbyn is not all about Israel. It's about antisemitism

(THIS IS THE JEWISH GROUP! RESPECT!!)

There was a brief moment when it looked as if Labour’s long summer of pain over antisemitism might soon be over. It lasted perhaps a minute or two, as word emerged on Tuesday afternoon that the party had finally adopted the full text of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance: both its definition of antisemitism and all its illustrative examples. But the prospect of an end to this sorry saga receded almost as soon as it appeared.

Instead of triggering an outbreak of peace and harmony, it seemed that most of the antagonists in this battle remained unhappy. Senior figures at Novara Media – both committed Corbynites – called the move “shameful” and “incompetence and cowardice combined”, promising to re-open the issue after party conference, when newly elected members of the successful JC9 left slate take their places on Labour’s ruling national executive committee.

Meanwhile, Jewish communal organisations expressed their unhappiness with efforts to qualify the IHRA text, especially with the page-and-a-half document submitted by Jeremy Corbyn himself, which the NEC rejected. They worry that even the very brief caveat that was agreed risks undermining the IHRA safeguards.

So this row seems destined to go on. That’s bad for Labour, who have lost a summer that could have been spent opposing this disastrous government. And it’s bad for the Jewish community, for whom this constant focus on them and those who hate them has been anguished and agonising.

The IHRA controversy has also distorted and obscured what the tension over Labour and antisemitism is really about. Because of the focus on the four IHRA examples that Labour dropped back in July, it’s often looked as if the disagreement is entirely about Israel/Palestine – as if, when you get right down to it, the Jewish community cannot tolerate criticism of Israel and that its problem with Corbyn is that he is just too passionate a campaigner for Palestinian rights.

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(Jewish Group) Jewish concern over Corbyn is not all about Israel. It's about antisemitism (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Sep 2018 OP
'Israel Is a Racist Endeavour':Signs Appear Across London After Labour Accepts Full anti-Semitism De Behind the Aegis Sep 2018 #1
Newcastle councillors in tears as protesters storm anti-Semitism debate Behind the Aegis Sep 2018 #2
Well MosheFeingold Sep 2018 #3

Behind the Aegis

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1. 'Israel Is a Racist Endeavour':Signs Appear Across London After Labour Accepts Full anti-Semitism De
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 04:38 PM
Sep 2018

London ordered the removal on Wednesday of adverts stating "Israel is a racist endeavour," which were featured at bus stops around London, although it is not clear who erected them. Police have opened an investigation following the posters' appearances in at least four locations, including stops in Westminster, Waterloo and Bloomsbury.

The posters appeared a day after the U.K. Labour Party adopted the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's definition in an attempt to defuse a row deepening rifts on its leader, Jeremy Corbyn.

A section of the definition states that "denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor."

A spokesperson for London mayor Sadiq Khan said: "These offensive adverts are not authorized and are acts of vandalism which Transport for London and its advertising partner takes extremely seriously. They have instructed their contractors to remove any posters found on their network immediately."

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Just another reminder, Jews are the enemy and hatred of us isn't "really" bigotry, it is "punching up".

Behind the Aegis

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2. Newcastle councillors in tears as protesters storm anti-Semitism debate
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 04:40 PM
Sep 2018

“Frightened” councillors were forced out of the room and left in tears due to the angry protest from far left campaigners, one of whom had to be dragged from the chamber by security.


The protest – led by the revolutionary communist Fight Racism Fight Imperialism group – was opposing Newcastle City Council’s adoption of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism, which they claimed would “criminalise solidarity with Palestine in Newcastle”.

After Lib Dem opposition deputy leader Nick Cott raised the motion to adopt the definition, protestors in the public gallery above began chanting, unfurled Palestinian flags, and shouted abuse at councillors.

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Afterwards, council leader Nick Forbes labelled them “clowns” who “don’t do anything to further the cause of the Palestinians”.

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MosheFeingold

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3. Well
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 06:08 PM
Sep 2018

"Afterwards, council leader Nick Forbes labelled them “clowns” who “don’t do anything to further the cause of the Palestinians”. "

Encouraging

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