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Mosby

(16,297 posts)
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:21 AM Sep 2019

NOVA SCOTIA PRIEST FIRED FOR PRAYING FOR ISRAEL

(THIS IS THE JEWISH GROUP)


HALIFAX – A Christian Orthodox priest in Nova Scotia was forcibly retired for delivering a sermon that honoured Judaism and Israel.

The head priest of St. Vladimir’s Orthodox Church in Halifax, Father Vladimir Tobin, received a letter from Orthodox Church in America Archbishop Irénée, the archbishop of Ottawa and Canada, on Aug. 12, informing him that he is being forcibly retired due to the alleged “Jewish twist in your ministry.”

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“After much thought and consideration, I have decided that effective this date, April 8th, 2019, you are officially retired as Rector of St. Vladimir Orthodox Church, Halifax, NS,” wrote the archbishop.

Father Tobin responded by writing: “It is true that I regularly pray for both Israel and United States, its armies and its president, and for ‘the land of Israel and the armies which protect her.’ What is to prevent us for praying for other countries that need it? The U.S. and Israel are our allies and need our support for peace in the Middle East. There are precedents of praying for other nations within our tradition. My prayers are mainly intended to advance peace in the Middle East .”

The Parish Council, unhappily shocked by the dismissal, wrote a letter urging Father Tobin’s reinstatement, to which Archbishop Irénée agreed, only to renege on last month.

https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/nova-scotia-priest-fired-for-praying-for-israel
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NOVA SCOTIA PRIEST FIRED FOR PRAYING FOR ISRAEL (Original Post) Mosby Sep 2019 OP
When i went to Presbyterian church classes for kids one day we went applegrove Sep 2019 #1
Father Tobin crossed two red lines. Eugene Sep 2019 #2
Gag MosheFeingold Sep 2019 #3

applegrove

(118,600 posts)
1. When i went to Presbyterian church classes for kids one day we went
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:44 AM
Sep 2019

on a surprise field trip to a synagogue and got to talk to a rabbi. That would have been in the 1970s. That taught me more about religion and christianity than anything else.

Eugene

(61,859 posts)
2. Father Tobin crossed two red lines.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 02:51 AM
Sep 2019

Yes, Jesus was Jewish, but Christian teaching is that Christ's salvation is meant equally for all. And can we skip over all that 1st-century nastiness from the New Testament and what St. Paul said? My parish priest gives occasional lip service to respect for "our Jewish brothers and sisters," and it is quietly left at that.

Second, its routine to pray for God to guide temporal leaders to act wisely. Praying for troops and other public servants is generally okay too. Praying for the good guys in the "Good Fight" is pushing the envelope. Praying for God's favor for a particular political actor is generally frowned upon. Praying for one side in the Israel-Palestine conflict, even in the name of peace, is a position the Orthodox Church in America does not take. Father Tobin was playing with fire, and he got burned.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
3. Gag
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 03:42 PM
Sep 2019

" Praying for one side in the Israel-Palestine conflict, even in the name of peace, is a position the Orthodox Church in America does not take."

Then they are moral cowards or idiots.

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