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Mosby

(16,310 posts)
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 02:56 PM Sep 2021

Everybody Hates the Jews

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But these days, the idea that “everybody hates the Jews” feels like less of a punchline and more like an accurate report of public sentiment. It seems every other day a new study or survey confirms what so many American Jews are feeling, as the old joke had it, that they are hating us more than is necessary.

Today, came the latest study from the Brandeis Center, which released a poll of “openly Jewish” college students. Seventy percent of the students surveyed reported that they experienced antisemitism. Half of the students said they have felt the need to hide their Jewish identity at school, explaining that they felt doing so would protect them from harassment, bullying or social exclusion. This is the kind of thing we would expect to hear about the Jews of Europe. But not here.

“What is so ​​alarming about these results is that the survey focused on more than a thousand AEPi brothers and AEPhi sisters. These are kids who generally enter college with strong Jewish identities and an eagerness to be active in Jewish organizations. Instead, they are learning to hide their Judaism. And the longer they are in college, we found, the more they closet themselves,” Kenneth L. Marcus, the head of the Brandeis Center, told me. “Anyone who has been paying attention can see that what happens on campus doesn’t stay on campus. This should be an alarm for the entire American Jewish community.”

This new survey (which you can read more about here) reflects the recently released FBI’s Hate Crimes Statistics for 2020. The bureau says that 57.5 percent of religious-based hate crimes last year had Jews as their targets, even though Jews represent 2 percent of the population.

What is it about the Jewish people that inspires such passionate animosity? Why is such a tiny group the object of this amount of attention? And why has this hate dogged Jews in every time and place in which they have ever lived?

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/everybody-hates-the-jews?r=exstm&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=twitter

not a huge fan of BW, but this is a good piece.

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Everybody Hates the Jews (Original Post) Mosby Sep 2021 OP
Some human brains have not evolved beyond caveman. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #1
I don't hate the jews nt msongs Sep 2021 #2
It is very good. Behind the Aegis Sep 2021 #3
The Romans stoked an antiJewish sentiment, suggesting Jews were lazy because they refused to Karadeniz Sep 2021 #4
All of my life I've had close Jewish friends. multigraincracker Sep 2021 #5
I've never hated Jews. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #6

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
1. Some human brains have not evolved beyond caveman.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 03:15 PM
Sep 2021

Fear everything. Everything wants to kill me. If they have it, take it away from them. If I can’t have it nobody can.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
3. It is very good.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 04:46 PM
Sep 2021

I am going to add some of the items from the piece:

Antisemitic Attitudes Across the Ideological Spectrum

These charts are what are really disturbing in my opinion:


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I constantly hear "progressives" rant "if only the old people would die off", seeming to indicate that bigotry is an "old person problem", when, of course, it isn't and the very notion, is, in fact, a form of bigotry.


I haven't read this, https://brandeiscenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Brandeis-Survey-Findings.pdf , yet, but I have seen a couple of stories about it in the press, well, the JEWISH press, it isn't likely to get much, if any, coverage in mainstream media outlets.

The far right says Jews aren’t white enough — that they appear to be white, but are, in fact, loyal to the people who are sullying the “real” America. This was certainly the motivation of the white supremacist who walked into Tree of Life and massacred 11 Jews. Meanwhile, the left says the opposite. It says we Jews are too white to be oppressed. It says, indeed, that we are the exemplars of white privilege, capable, as we are, of changing our Lifshitzes into Laurens and passing. And to make matters worse, Jews support Israel, which, they insist, is not Jews’ indigenous homeland but the last bastion of white colonialism in the Middle East.

In this way, Jews are being successfully transformed into neo-Nazis in the public imagination at the very moment that we are being targeted by actual neo-Nazis.

But unlike the alt-right, whose hatred is unabashed and familiar to a people who survived Hitler, those who promote this big lie — the lie of the Jew as the white man and the uber-imperialist — are our leading intellectuals, magazine editors, book authors and influencers.


And there it is! Be ready for the No True Scotsman fallacies and the "well, I don't hate Jews (see above, including the misspelled "jews" ) ". The left loves diversity, except when it comes to certain groups, Jews are one of those groups.

Karadeniz

(22,516 posts)
4. The Romans stoked an antiJewish sentiment, suggesting Jews were lazy because they refused to
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 04:59 PM
Sep 2021

work one day a week... nevermind that their own work time amounted to the same thing, their holidays just being scattered instead of orderly. So they stoked prejudice for centuries, fueled also by the Jews' lack of appreciation for being subjugated by pax romana. Then the Christian church more openly used laws and theology to denigrate Jews. Centuries upon centuries of cultivated fear and hate doesn't just stop. Schools don't teach these things because it would make western culture seem imperfect. The push against CRT is the modern equivalent.

multigraincracker

(32,676 posts)
5. All of my life I've had close Jewish friends.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 05:34 PM
Sep 2021

Never gave it a thought, except for one time. In high school I didn't go steady or date much, but one girl became the love of my life. Debbie, her brother was a great friend of mine. We share the same political ideas, music and other interest. I would sometimes talk to her when I was at their house and started to really like her.
Then I went away to school my senior year and we started to write each other. I really felt connected and I think she felt the same way. I got back and she had asked me to the prom and I had accepted. We went on a couple of dates before the dance and was about as happy as I have ever been. Then on the night of the prom, later in the evening, with tears in her eyes, she told me her father will not let her date me again. I was of the wrong religion. I still wonder what might have been.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
6. I've never hated Jews.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 06:22 PM
Sep 2021

I've always admired them, actually, such as their penchant for winning a large number of Nobel prizes in science despite having such a small population.

Most of my classmates in the "honors" coursework at my high school were Jewish. It was basically a LOT more work in college prep classes, but with no benefits for doing it... other than it made the first few years of college seem easy in comparison.

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