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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 08:39 AM Jun 2013

Mysterious Voynich manuscript has 'genuine message'

The message inside "the world's most mysterious medieval manuscript" has eluded cryptographers, mathematicians and linguists for over a century.

And for many, the so-called Voynich book is assumed to be a hoax.

But a new study, published in the journal Plos One, suggests the manuscript may, after all, hold a genuine message.

Scientists say they found linguistic patterns they believe to be meaningful words within the text.

Whether or not it really does have any meaningful information, though, is much debated by amateurs and professionals alike.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22975809

Keywords and Co-Occurrence Patterns in the Voynich Manuscript: An Information-Theoretic Analysis.

The Voynich manuscript–named after the Polish-American antiquarian Wilfrid Voynich, who owned it since 1912 until his death in 1930-is perhaps the most widely known example of a book written in an as yet undeciphered script. Its author and language are unknown, and no other document in the same script has ever been found. The manuscript‚s ownership history can be traced back to the seventeenth century, but carbon dating of its vellum and stylistic analysis of its illustrations suggest that it was written around the second half of the fifteenth century (Dr. Greg Hodgins, University of Arizona, personal communication). Presently, the book belongs to the Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library of Yale University, where it is identified as Beinecke MS 408. Public-domain electronic images of the full manuscript are deposited in Wikimedia Commons (commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Voynichmanuscript).

The manuscript comprises 104 folios, organized into 18 quires bound to leather thongs. Both sides of most folios contain text, written from left to right. The text consists of discrete graphemes, chosen from an “alphabet” of some 40 symbols and organized into arrays or “words” of variable length. These arrays are separated by spaces, and lines are sometimes grouped into paragraphs but, otherwise, no evident punctuation marks are used. Most pages also contain illustrations, which modern scholars have used to “thematically” divide the manuscript into five sections: Herbal, Astrological, Biological, Pharmacological, and Recipes. The Herbal section is the longest, and displays dozens of ravishingly coloured plant drawings. Oddly enough, however, not a single one of these pictures could be unquestionably recognized as an existing plant. Similarly, except for the Zodiac signs in the Astrological section, no illustration could be unambiguously interpreted in the whole book.

In spite of its unmistakable medieval-codex look, the origin, purpose, and contents of the Voynich manuscript remain a deep mystery. Since the seventeenth century, numerous attempts at deciphering the script have led to a few claims of success, but none of them has been convincing. Careful quantitative analysis of the text structure, however, has inspired some plausible hypotheses on the manuscrip’s cryptographic nature: while it is unlikely that the book is written in a European language using an unknown alphabetic script, it may be encoding an East Asian language (such as Chinese) into an alphabet invented specifically for such purpose, or contain a more sophisticated encryption of a then familiar language (Latin, for instance). Naturally, the hypothesis of a hoax -a smart fabrication contrived to deceive avid book collectors, of the sort that flourished after the Renaissance times- cannot be discarded either [1], [2].

Transcriptions of the Voynich manuscript script into Roman script, replacing each grapheme of the former by an alphabetic character of the latter, have allowed for the statistical analysis of the text. Most of the studies undertaken in this direction regarded the text as a symbolic sequence of characters (including the blank space). Calculations of the second-order character entropy [3], word statistics and character autocorrelation measures [4], and random-walk-like fluctuations [2], reveal organizational structures that are compatible with a ciphered version of a real language, and make the possibility of a fabrication less likely.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0066344

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Mysterious Voynich manuscript has 'genuine message' (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jun 2013 OP
cool. nt xchrom Jun 2013 #1
I remain suspicious dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #2
So this, finally, is what "they" don't want you to know? Iterate Jun 2013 #3
My speculation -- weird relative in a wealthy family. hunter Jun 2013 #4
It's been known for a long time that the Voynich manuscript has statistical resemblances to language dimbear Jun 2013 #5
Direct link to the manuscript itself... hunter Jun 2013 #6
Maybe he structures are just mathematical artifacts from the random letter generator: DetlefK Jun 2013 #7

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. I remain suspicious
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 09:52 AM
Jun 2013

but having said that I have no concept of what would have encouraged anyone to publish anything so complicated unless they were in fact attempting to convey something or other.

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
3. So this, finally, is what "they" don't want you to know?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 12:33 PM
Jun 2013

I so much want to follow up and look at the script, but I know it will lead to six lost hours. thx.

hunter

(38,323 posts)
4. My speculation -- weird relative in a wealthy family.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 12:51 PM
Jun 2013

He wasn't any trouble at all when he was working on his manuscript, but when you took it away from him he became impossible to deal with so they let him be.


dimbear

(6,271 posts)
5. It's been known for a long time that the Voynich manuscript has statistical resemblances to language
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:13 PM
Jun 2013

which only prove that if it is a conscious fake, it is a good one. I think we already knew that.

hunter

(38,323 posts)
6. Direct link to the manuscript itself...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:52 PM
Jun 2013
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

It's got women bathing.



And once they are clean they go to work repairing alien organic starships...



That's the only thing it could be, right????

RIGHT????

RIGHT???

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(You know I'm right...)

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
7. Maybe he structures are just mathematical artifacts from the random letter generator:
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:32 AM
Jun 2013

Humans suck at producing random sequences. We always end up with some kind of rythm or we overcompensate when we realize that we haven't been "random enough" recently.

If it was a human brain that produced this "random" sequence, you would always get some kind of regularities that would look like a structure.

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