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Related: About this forumNASA rocket engine runs 5+ years
By JAKE ELLISON, SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF
Updated 4:54 pm, Wednesday, June 26, 2013
It's been blasting away since early 2008, a constant thrust for over 48,000 hours, and it's still ready for more, NASA says of its advance ion propulsion engine.
"We will voluntarily terminate this test at the end of this month, with the thruster fully operational. Life and performance have exceeded the requirements for any anticipated science mission," said Michael J. Patterson, principal investigator for NEXT at Glenn, in a press release.
The agency says:
The NEXT engine is a type of solar electric propulsion in which thruster systems use the electricity generated by the spacecraft's solar panel to accelerate the xenon propellant to speeds of up to 90,000 mph. This provides a dramatic improvement in performance compared to conventional chemical rocket engines.
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/article/NASA-rocket-engine-runs-5-years-still-not-4623930.php
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,675 posts)30 million newton/seconds. I suppose one could calculate how much acceleration you would get for a given payload from that.
My math is no longer that good.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,331 posts)5 * 365.25 * 24 * 3600 = 1.58*10^8 seconds
30 *10^6 / 1.58*10^8 = 0.19 N
It used 770 kg of propellant; if the empty mass of the rocket is 100 kg, then you should be able to use the formula here: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=476154
D = (Ve / mdot) * (M0 - M * (log(M0 / M) + 1))
where Ve = exhaust velocity (90,000mph, which is 39,000 m/s); mdot = rate of change of mass = 770kg/1.58*10^8s; M0=initial mass with propellant = 870kg; M= final mass=100kg
which, if I've plugged it all in correctly, gives 4.4*10^12 metres. The distance from the Sun to Neptune is about 4.5*10^12 metres, so we'll say "it could have gone from here to Neptune - ignoring gravity".
tinrobot
(10,905 posts)Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)That's 2 round trips to Saturn. Pretty good. How long did it take Cassini to get there?
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)Wow.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Earth to Saturn via Venus (twice), Earth (again) and Jupiter.
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)Plus a little gravity boost to get up to speed as it passed. I wonder how long it would have taken with an ion engine pushing that much mass? Got the math on that? An ion engine pushing something as heavy as Cassini a billion miles?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,331 posts)which is not the same as how far a spacecraft with this engine would go. At the very least, you'd need to know the mass of the spacecraft to be able to work it out.
longship
(40,416 posts)Very low thrust but high efficiency due to high velocity of the plasma. Plus, the damned things can go forever as long as you have fuel. And apparently a little goes a long way.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)this is one hell of an achievement.
byronius
(7,396 posts)Great picture, too.
caraher
(6,278 posts)The article gives the total impulse it could impart to a payload as "30 million-newton-seconds" (in the figure caption). Of course, it had to eject 770 kg of xenon to do this... let's neglect the (nontrivial!) cost of moving the fuel and pretend we have a 1 tonne spacecraft (=1000 kg). 30 million N s of impulse could change the speed of such an object by 30,000 m/s - 67,000 MPH! (Of course, this would be over the course of 5 years...