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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:40 PM Dec 2013

Neanderthals and the Dead

By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD

Early in the 20th century, two brothers discovered a nearly complete Neanderthal skeleton in a pit inside a cave at La Chapelle-aux-Saints, in southwestern France. The discovery raised the possibility that these evolutionary relatives of ours intentionally buried their dead — at least 50,000 years ago, before the arrival of anatomically modern humans in Europe.

These and at least 40 subsequent discoveries, a few as far from Europe as Israel and Iraq, appeared to suggest that Neanderthals, long thought of as brutish cave dwellers, actually had complex funeral practices. Yet a significant number of researchers have since objected that the burials were misinterpreted, and might not represent any advance in cognitive and symbolic behavior.

Now an international team of scientists is reporting that a 13-year re-examination of the burials at La Chapelle-aux-Saints supports the earlier claims that the burials were intentional.

The researchers — archaeologists, geologists and paleoanthropologists — not only studied the skeleton from the original excavations, but found more Neanderthal remains, from two children and an adult. They also studied the bones of other animals in the cave, mainly bison and reindeer, and the geology of the burial pits.

The findings, in this week’s issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, “buttress claims for complex symbolic behavior among Western European Neanderthals,” the scientists reported.

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Neanderthals and the Dead (Original Post) n2doc Dec 2013 OP
They try to act like Neanderthals were monkeys. Monkeys are REALLY smart. loudsue Dec 2013 #1
Actually there were a lot of different species of "man"... Locut0s Dec 2013 #3
A Good Majority Of Us Have Some Neanderthal In Us colsohlibgal Dec 2013 #2

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
1. They try to act like Neanderthals were monkeys. Monkeys are REALLY smart.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:56 PM
Dec 2013

But Neanderthals were much smarter...a different kind of smart. A bridge between Homosapiens smart and Monkey smart. A whole new consciousness paired with abilities. It seems like this is where they knew. and they knew they knew.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
3. Actually there were a lot of different species of "man"...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:30 PM
Dec 2013


I suspect most of them lay along said bridge.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
2. A Good Majority Of Us Have Some Neanderthal In Us
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:01 PM
Dec 2013

However smart or not or brutish Neanderthals were our ancestors were getting it on with them, there was definitely interbreeding, it's been proven.

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