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Cosmic Queries: GMOs with Bill Nye (Part 1) (Original Post) joshcryer Jul 2015 OP
What Did Monsanto Show Bill Nye to Make Him Fall "in Love" With GMOs? jakeXT Jul 2015 #1
Nothing. joshcryer Jul 2015 #2
A wad of cash, perhaps ? CentralMass Jul 2015 #3
Listen to the podcast. He addresses it. progressoid Jul 2015 #7
Since when is an actor with an undergrad degree in Mech Engineering an expert on anything? GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #4
A lot of people look to actors Igel Jul 2015 #5
Like Al Gore and global warming? progressoid Jul 2015 #6

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
1. What Did Monsanto Show Bill Nye to Make Him Fall "in Love" With GMOs?
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:56 AM
Jul 2015

Bill Nye, the bow-tied erstwhile kids' TV host, onetime dancer with the stars, and tireless champion of evolution and climate science, was never a virulent or wild-eyed critic of genetically modified crops. Back in 2005, he did a pretty nuanced episode of his TV show on it, the takeaway of which was hardly fire-breathing denunciation: "Let's farm responsibly, let's require labels on our foods, and let's carefully test these foods case by case."

In his book Undeniable: Evolution and the Science of Creation, published just last November, Nye reiterated these points. His concern about GMOs centered mainly on unintended consequences of growing them over large expanses—he cited the example of crops engineered to resist herbicides, which have been linked pretty decisively to the decline of monarch butterflies, which rely on abundant milkweeds, which in turn have been largely wiped out in the Midwest by GMO-enabled herbicide use. Nye praised certain GMOs, such as corn engineered to repel certain insects, but concluded that "if you're asking me, we should stop introducing genes from one species into another," because "we just can't know what will happen to other species in that modified species' ecosystem."

Now, Nye's doubts have evidently fallen away like milkweeds under a fine mist of herbicide. In a February interview filmed backstage on Bill Maher's HBO show (starting about 3:40 in the below video), Nye volunteered that he was working on a revision of the GMO section of Undeniable. He gave no details, just that he "went to Monsanto and I spent a lot of time with the scientists there." As a result, he added with a grin, "I have revised my outlook, and am very excited about telling the world. When you're in love, you want to tell the world!"

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/03/what-did-monsanto-show-bill-nye-make-him-stop-worrying-and-love-gmos

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
4. Since when is an actor with an undergrad degree in Mech Engineering an expert on anything?
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:24 AM
Jul 2015

Bill Nye said "one gene controls eye color" -- only a person without the most basic understanding of genetics would say that (or maybe it was on a cue card).

Igel

(35,356 posts)
5. A lot of people look to actors
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:52 AM
Jul 2015

with degrees--perhaps--in acting as experts.

At least mech eng has decent pretense to understanding data and something like a scientific methodology. As opposed to "method acting" being taken to be applicable to "method science."

But point noted: Only qualified and approved experts are allowed to opine on things, and then only in their area of expertise.

HRC is not an economist, she's a lawyer; neither is Bernie Sanders, he majored in political science before spending some time at a kibbutz. Enjoy.


The problem is he's daring to challenge the overwhelming consensus among a minority of self-appointed experts, and go with the majority. For that, he must be personally destroyed and his credibility rendered null. It's how things go among the rational and reasonable.

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