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Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:45 AM Jun 2017

The strangest star in the galaxy is acting up again.

It’s a news story 1,280 years in the making. That’s about how many light years from Earth sits KIC 8462852, also known as Tabby’s Star, whose bizarre pattern of dimming and brightening is so unusual that some scientists have theorized its behavior could be accounted for by an alien structure periodically occluding its light source.

“Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build,” Penn State astronomer Jason Wright told The Atlantic in 2015. The Atlantic published a follow-up asking whether the “megastructure” in question could be a “Dyson Sphere,” a large array designed to absorb massive amounts of solar energy from Tabby’s star, an idea that appears in several popular science fiction novels. Wright’s statement and the buzz around it prompted a small backlash from critics (myself included) who considered the assumption that one would “expect” alien societies to emulate Western science-fiction novels to be a bit anthropomorphic.

But back to Tabby’s star: A periodically-dimming star is not an unusual occurrence in the universe. From our Earthly perspective, a star may suddenly dim for many reasons: if it is in a binary or trinary system, its companion star may briefly eclipse it from our perspective, temporarily reducing the amount of light reaching us. Some stars, such as Cepheid variables, periodically brighten and dim at regular intervals as the stellar atmosphere pressure builds and releases. Others still may dim very slightly when planets pass them from our perspective.

Yet Tabby’s star fits no known model. The star rose to prominence for being inexplicable to science after its brightness suddenly dipped 20 percent within the span of a day. For reference, a planetary transit across a star generally causes a dip of less than 1 percent. Such a drastic dip implied that whatever was crossing the path of Tabby’s star was big—really big. In fact, in order to account for a 20 percent dip in brightness, the transiting object orbiting Tabby’s star would have to be around 5 times the radius of our sun, according to Columbia University astronomy professor David Kipping.

More at:

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/24/the-strangest-star-in-the-galaxy-is-acting-up-again/

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The strangest star in the galaxy is acting up again. (Original Post) Cattledog Jun 2017 OP
well if it's aliens.... dhill926 Jun 2017 #1
Yes, take our leader HAB911 Jun 2017 #2
The idea of a Dyson Sphere came from papers published by Prof. Freeman J. Dyson around 1960. LongTomH Jun 2017 #3
Almost certainly a natural event. longship Jun 2017 #4
if so, they are looking at us when we were roughly in the 7th to 8th century.... Javaman Jun 2017 #5

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
3. The idea of a Dyson Sphere came from papers published by Prof. Freeman J. Dyson around 1960.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jun 2017

So it's far from just "an idea that appears in several popular science fiction novels."

Russian astrophysicist Nikolai Kardashev thought along similar lines with his idea of a Kardashev scale. A civilization that builds a Dyson sphere would be a Kardashev type II civilization, one that harnesses the total energy of their star.

Much earlier, the spaceflight pioneer Konstantin Tsiolkovsky predicted that: "Man will not always stay on Earth; the pursuit of light and space will lead him to penetrate the bounds of the atmosphere, timidly at first, but in the end to conquer the whole of solar space."

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. Almost certainly a natural event.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jun 2017

That is what all the pertinent scientists are saying. (I.E., astronomers, cosmologists, etc.)

In other words: No aliens.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
5. if so, they are looking at us when we were roughly in the 7th to 8th century....
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:49 AM
Jun 2017

if they are building a Dyson sphere's they don't want anything to do with us.

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