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dalton99a

(81,516 posts)
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 02:13 PM Nov 2019

You may need to rethink your dog's age

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2224268-convert-your-dogs-age-into-human-years-using-this-new-formula/

Convert your dog's age into human years using this new formula
21 November 2019
By Jake Buehler

You may need to rethink your dog’s age. Conventional wisdom says that one human year is the equivalent of seven dog years, but a new analysis suggests we have been getting this all wrong.

The seven dog years to every human year rule comes simply from crudely dividing human lifespan, around 80 years, by dog lifespan, typically 12 years. Trey Ideker at the University of California, San Diego, and his colleagues found that the rule is a little off.

The team performed a genetic analysis of dogs and humans to identify how they age over time. The researchers discovered that compared with humans, dogs age faster at first, blazing into the equivalent of human middle age after only a few years.

But this ageing quickly tapers off, with the next 10 years only accruing two human decades’ worth of changes. The team put this together into a single formula plotted in the graph below: human_age = 16 ln(dog_age) + 31. It is a significant revision to our understanding of how to map dogs against their human owners in terms of age, says Ideker.



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You may need to rethink your dog's age (Original Post) dalton99a Nov 2019 OP
Graphic combines two of my most favorite things... Tom Hanks and Dogs! LOL hlthe2b Nov 2019 #1
Where did the Tom Hanks vs Dog graphic come from? targetpractice Nov 2019 #2
From the original paper: dalton99a Nov 2019 #3
Thank you, dalton99a! n/t targetpractice Nov 2019 #6
Fascinating Bayard Nov 2019 #4
Science, useless trivia, and Doggos ... 3 of my favorite things :) How about doing Kittehs next? nt mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #5
What does In mean? I read the study, but still can't do the math. My two dogs are around 10 years emmaverybo Nov 2019 #7
their only flaw. mopinko Nov 2019 #12
"Boo hoo, unfair that dogs don't have the actual human lifespan." Considering the size and number cstanleytech Dec 2019 #15
Mandatory spay and neuter programs could work, if enforced. Then we would have to find them . emmaverybo Dec 2019 #16
Long term probably would not work as there bound to be some animals that escape into cstanleytech Dec 2019 #17
Well, there it is. I am in the science group I see! And you are talking truth to sentiment. We could emmaverybo Dec 2019 #19
It's a lower case L, not a capital i - "ln" the natural logarithm muriel_volestrangler Dec 2019 #21
Thank you so much! I am amazed a dog lived that long. And right, sounds like the algorithm emmaverybo Dec 2019 #22
I've long known that the seven dog years equals one human year PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #8
And whether or not one smokes. Harker Nov 2019 #9
LOL! PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #13
They certainly are precious... Harker Nov 2019 #14
My formula was always Wednesdays Nov 2019 #10
Our yellow lab Hunny passed away several years ago, a few months shy of 17 Martin Eden Nov 2019 #11
Oldest dog I ever knew SCantiGOP Dec 2019 #20
I also think age depends on the dog's size/breed. Two of my dogs lived past 18 Rhiannon12866 Dec 2019 #18

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
7. What does In mean? I read the study, but still can't do the math. My two dogs are around 10 years
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:07 PM
Nov 2019

old. I know they are seniors. In traditional projections, which I assumed are based on stats, different breeds have different max lifespans. Most of us then go by what breed seems dominant in our dogs, which of course is unscientific. Littler dogs tend to have longer lifespans.

Boo hoo, unfair that dogs don’t have the actual human lifespan.

cstanleytech

(26,296 posts)
15. "Boo hoo, unfair that dogs don't have the actual human lifespan." Considering the size and number
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:36 AM
Dec 2019

of litters they can produce adding a longer lifespan on top of that might not exactly be a good thing.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
16. Mandatory spay and neuter programs could work, if enforced. Then we would have to find them .
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:37 AM
Dec 2019

homes, which could be done if municipal animal care and control had the resources and used them. But they never will have such life-spans. No kill shelter proponents make the case that there are enough homes, but many of the shelters don’t market, don’t bother to find owners, don’5 do enough to not kill. Now parrots do have our lifespan and longer. That’s a problem for guardians! They have to be sure they have a plan for the birds they will leave behind.

I guess we’d need to control human population to accommodate longer-living dogs. I don’t have a problem with that.

cstanleytech

(26,296 posts)
17. Long term probably would not work as there bound to be some animals that escape into
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:54 AM
Dec 2019

the wild before they were rendered sterile and once they managed to breed with wild canines you could have a potential problem.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
19. Well, there it is. I am in the science group I see! And you are talking truth to sentiment. We could
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:44 PM
Dec 2019

never, especially world wide, control their population, or care for all, so if they had longer lives, more would live horrible lives for more time. Facts of life.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
21. It's a lower case L, not a capital i - "ln" the natural logarithm
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 07:58 PM
Dec 2019

If you have a scientific calculator, it should have an 'ln' button; but you can use Google as that. Just type, for instance, "=16*ln(10)+31" into the Google search box, and it gives you the human equivalent of 10 as 68.

I'm not convinced this works for old dog ages; the record for a dog is 29 and a half, which translates to only 85.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
22. Thank you so much! I am amazed a dog lived that long. And right, sounds like the algorithm
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 08:50 PM
Dec 2019

needs a tune up. My dogs are just a bit younger than I am. They look great for their age. You taught me something, neat.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
8. I've long known that the seven dog years equals one human year
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:57 PM
Nov 2019

is highly inaccurate. Plus, typical lifespans vary enormously depending on the breed.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
13. LOL!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 09:40 PM
Nov 2019

My brother is involved in Irish Wolfhound rescue, and not only does he get them already well past puppyhood, but they tend to live 9 years or less. Usually less.

Among the several reasons I like cats is that they tend to live longer.

But all of our four-legged friends are precious.

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
10. My formula was always
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:26 PM
Nov 2019

the first year of the dog's life = 15 human years, then five human years for each year after that. This graph is even steeper than that. 🤔

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
11. Our yellow lab Hunny passed away several years ago, a few months shy of 17
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 06:57 PM
Nov 2019

Looks like she was off the chart.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
20. Oldest dog I ever knew
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 11:59 PM
Dec 2019

When I was a kid, an aunt had a chihuahua who made it to 22.
She actually recorded pets arrivals and deaths in her Bible.

Rhiannon12866

(205,513 posts)
18. I also think age depends on the dog's size/breed. Two of my dogs lived past 18
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 04:06 AM
Dec 2019

But they were not large dogs, a Cairn Terrier and a Cocker Spaniel.

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