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Related: About this forumThe Second COVID-19 Shot Is a Rude Reawakening for Immune Cells.
Side effects are just a sign that protection is kicking in as it should.
'At about 2 a.m. on Thursday morning, I woke to find my husband shivering beside me. For hours, he had been tossing in bed, exhausted but unable to sleep, nursing chills, a fever, and an agonizingly sore left arm. His teeth chattered. His forehead was freckled with sweat. And as I lay next to him, cinching blanket after blanket around his arms, I felt an immense sense of relief. All this misery was a sign that the immune cells in his body had been riled up by the second shot of a COVID-19 vaccine, and were well on their way to guarding him from future disease.
Side effects are a natural part of the vaccination process, as my colleague Sarah Zhang has written. Not everyone will experience them. But the two COVID-19 vaccines cleared for emergency use in the United States, made by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, already have reputations for raising the hackles of the immune system: In both companies clinical trials, at least a third of the volunteers ended up with symptoms such as headaches and fatigue; fevers like my husbands were less common.
Dose No. 2 is more likely to pack a punchin large part because the effects of the second shot build iteratively on the first. My husband, whos a neurologist at Yale New Haven Hospital, is one of many who had a worse experience with his second shot than his first.
But much like any other learning process, in this one repetition is key. When hit with the second injection, the immune system recognizes the onslaught, and starts to take it even more seriously. The bodys encore act, uncomfortable though it might be, is evidence that the immune system is solidifying its defenses against the virus.
By the second vaccine, its already amped up and ready to go, Jasmine Marcelin, an infectious-disease physician at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, told me. Fortunately, side effects resolve quickly, whereas COVID-19 can bring on debilitating, months-long symptoms and has killed more than 2 million people.'>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/02/second-vaccine-side-effects/617892/?
leftieNanner
(15,144 posts)We had our first Moderna last week, and the second shot coming up in April. I plan to have some easy food in the fridge in case we are hit hard.
Thanks for posting this.
elleng
(131,077 posts)A friend is 'recovering' from #2 now.
The Wizard
(12,547 posts)low grade fever, lots of aches and fatigue. Starting to improve now.
mbusby
(823 posts)...is taken at the end of March, I will have Jack Daniels ready and waiting.
elleng
(131,077 posts)Captain Zero
(6,823 posts)Tylenol is ok.
elleng
(131,077 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,525 posts)I only used it once.
leftieNanner
(15,144 posts)They do recommend that you avoid alcohol for a few days.
bahboo
(16,353 posts)whether I feel like shit or not. Figure it might be nice to just laze around for a bit....
luvs2sing
(2,220 posts)His arm was mildly sore last night. Today, he has no symptoms at all and, because he worries, and because he is married to a woman with a history of crazy reactions to medications and vaccinations, hes now worried the dose didnt take. I read this article to him, but he still isnt convinced.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,894 posts)does it mean the immune system isn't ramping up?
I haven't had either shot, so I have no personal experience to relate.
Rebl2
(13,544 posts)think every body is different and reacts differently. I dont think it necessarily means your body isnt reacting to it or ramping up a defense.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Chills, leg cramps, and pain near major joints; hips, elbows, shoulders. It felt like bruising.
It didn't start right away, but days after the second shot and lingered for a few days.
It's over now, and well worth it.
Arkansas Granny
(31,525 posts)had me feeling really tired for a couple of days and a couple nights of pulling the covers up and then kicking them off again. 48 hours after the 2nd shot, the side effects were over.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)more succor.
Damn.
Had a bad time with my second shingles shot. Hope this doesnt supersede it.
elleng
(131,077 posts)I had NO reaction to either shingles shot.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Had a small reaction to the first one and then got laid flat for two days with the second.
I have cleared my calendar for the weekend after my second Covid shot on the 25th.
I am such a fragile flower.
elleng
(131,077 posts)but I rarely plan much. A friend will likely stay with me, after, and I'm NOT a fragile flower!
dhol82
(9,353 posts)MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)I had chills the evening of the shot and some body aches throughout that first night. I woke up feeling great the next morning but went down right at the 24 hour mark with fatigue, chills and a fever...not horrible but I definitely didnt feel well. I slept 10 hours straight and hit the ground running Friday. Ive felt great since.
I havent had a shingles shot....I guess thats next!
dhol82
(9,353 posts)lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)will protect us from the newer variants?
onlyadream
(2,167 posts)If the people who experience bad side effects of the second dose would have had a bad case of COVID. And, conversely, if the ones who had no vaccine side effects would have had a mild case of COVID.
Tanuki
(14,920 posts)after my second Pfizer vax than at any point when I had covid. Higher fever, which eventually "broke" abruptly leaving me drenched in sweat, teeth-chattering chills, hands so cold during the chills that I had to warm them up with a heating pad. All of these were much more intense than during actual covid. Threw up once after the second vax, never during covid. Coughed a lot during covid, never post-vax. Despite the discomfort post-vax, I didn't really mind so much because I knew that is was a possibility, was not in any way dangerous, and simply indicated a robust immune reaction, which is something I wanted.
underpants
(182,868 posts)No side effects so far other than a little pain from getting a shot.
Incredible operation. Lots of volunteers and National Guard.
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)I had the J&J last Wednesday afternoon and right at the 24 hour mark, I had chills, body aches and fatigue. After a good nights sleep I woke up like any other day and felt great. Keep us posted!
underpants
(182,868 posts)Im a hypochondriac. I got it yesterday right about this time - 9am. Nothing so far. Im supposed to play golf this afternoon. Yesterday was rearranging the garage so I stayed very active.
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)It sounds like youre past the witching hour...
underpants
(182,868 posts)MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)I thought about you today and hoped all went well.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I'm elderly with multiple medical problems, and I fear I'll have an adverse reaction.
Guess I just have to ride it out.
Tanuki
(14,920 posts)(Speaking from experience.)
You will be fine!
TimeToGo
(1,366 posts)Dont scare people unnecessarily be smart, but not afraid.
4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)My second shot tore me up just like that for 30 hrs.
Worst shot in my life and the Navy shot me up with
Plague, Typhoid, Anthrax, Hep's and many more.
KarenS
(4,085 posts)I was good until late this morning,,,, then chills, fever, exhaustion,,,, lasted about 8 hours,,,,, we'll see how tomorrow goes,,,,,
to anyone getting the second vaccine,,, just have some 'easy' food around and don't make any plans be lazy,,,, and hydrate!
Dawgman49
(226 posts)Ive been hearing from many anecdotal medical people the importance of being well hydrated prior to the second moderna shot
tavernier
(12,396 posts)Dehydration always feels lousy, even without a vaccine. Ive had enough wine headaches the next morning to remember that.
Bayard
(22,128 posts)Talked to a friend of mine who had gotten his second one, that was really bad. No problem with the first.
Wondering if its a bad idea for us to get them at the same time.... Who's going to take care of who?
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Rural_Progressive
(1,107 posts)is you have already been exposed to the SARS-COV-2 virus and either didn't develop CoViD-19 at all or were asymptomatic.
Random Boomer
(4,168 posts)I'm assuming that if someone has already had COVID-19 (even without realizing it), their body is already primed to repel the virus the next time around. So the vaccine tricks the body into mounting a strong defense right away.
Rural_Progressive
(1,107 posts)using the one quarter I took of immunology and virology back in the late 80s.
Guess that's a better background than being a YouTube virologist or immunologist.
One of my relatives is heading up the vaccine distribution in a fairly good sized city. He's heard of people really getting the snot kicked out of them with the first dose. The professionals he's working with think that prior exposure is the probable cause of that response.
NNadir
(33,541 posts)I had some headache and fatigue but was otherwise OK.