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Warpy

(111,237 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:14 PM Mar 2022

New Experiments Hint Human Language Likely Didn't Start With Grunts

Two groups of 30 volunteers across different cultures (Australian and Vanuatuan) had to try and convey specified meanings using either gestures or non-verbal vocalizations – a bit like a game of charades.

The same exercise was repeated with 10 sighted and 10 blind volunteers, who were tasked with producing the gestured or non-verbal communications, while a group of undergraduates tried to understand what they meant.

https://www.sciencealert.com/experiments-suggest-human-language-burst-onto-the-scene-with-gestures-not-grunts

Interesting take on things that are hard wired. Doesn't cover verbal communication, but interesting. I'd always thought the earliest homonin verbal communication was clicks and whistles. It would have blended with bird calls and not called attention to a species that was still a few million years away from being apex predators.

Chimps have been found to use a combination of lip smacks and blowing in face to face communication.

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New Experiments Hint Human Language Likely Didn't Start With Grunts (Original Post) Warpy Mar 2022 OP
I believe whining came first followed by middle finger hand gestures Budi Mar 2022 #1
You're probably right about whining Warpy Mar 2022 #2
Do agree with you. I recall someone's dad that just snapped his fingers and kids would shut up. Budi Mar 2022 #4
Always thought it was snorts or flatulence telegraphed. Sneederbunk Mar 2022 #3
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
1. I believe whining came first followed by middle finger hand gestures
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:28 PM
Mar 2022

Which was accompanied by hissing, "ssssss" & "fffffff", eventually leading a more intelectually developed human brain to the words, fuck you! 🖕🏼

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Warpy

(111,237 posts)
2. You're probably right about whining
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:42 PM
Mar 2022

but homonin parents didn't like it any better than we do and thumped their kids out of it quickly.

Clicks and whistles, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. Do agree with you. I recall someone's dad that just snapped his fingers and kids would shut up.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:58 PM
Mar 2022

And that whistle too! Like training animals.

Those old habits of early man still exist & are still effective.

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