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Rainforestgoddess

(436 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:37 AM Sep 2012

"Why did god create atheists?"

I don't know if this has been posted or discussed before, but I thought it was interesting.

http://religiousragings.tumblr.com/post/31221033607/why-did-god-create-atheists

There is a famous story told in Chassidic literature that addresses this very question. The Master teaches the student that God created everything in the world to be appreciated, since everything is here to teach us a lesson.

One clever student asks “What lesson can we learn from atheists? Why did God create them?”

The Master responds “God created atheists to teach us the most important lesson of them all — the lesson of true compassion. You see, when an atheist performs and act of charity, visits someone who is sick, helps someone in need, and cares for the world, he is not doing so because of some religious teaching. He does not believe that god commanded him to perform this act. In fact, he does not believe in God at all, so his acts are based on an inner sense of morality. And look at the kindness he can bestow upon others simply because he feels it to be right.”

“This means,” the Master continued “that when someone reaches out to you for help, you should never say ‘I pray that God will help you.’ Instead for the moment, you should become an atheist, imagine that there is no God who can help, and say ‘I will help you.’”

ETA source: Tales of Hasidim Vol. 2 by Mar
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"Why did god create atheists?" (Original Post) Rainforestgoddess Sep 2012 OP
My answer to that... rexcat Sep 2012 #1
Well yes, Rainforestgoddess Sep 2012 #2
Nothing to do with evolution... rexcat Sep 2012 #3
There's an answer to that too dmallind Sep 2012 #4
thus the ones who chose 'c' Rainforestgoddess Sep 2012 #6
Sometimes video games can be set to difficulty levels. If you set them so you always win, they're dimbear Sep 2012 #5
To keep an eye on the loonies! mr blur Sep 2012 #7
I like that story. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #8

Rainforestgoddess

(436 posts)
2. Well yes,
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:46 AM
Sep 2012

That would be the answer if dad was an atheist.

I would fall off my chair if one of my kids asked that. They would be more likely to ask 'how did evolution select for delusional behaviour?'

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
4. There's an answer to that too
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:13 PM
Sep 2012

Assuming it's apropos of religious faith.

Unanswerable questions with insufficient data cause one of three rsponses in pattern seeking self-aware creatures capable of abstract thinking like us:

a) Glum fatalistic acceptance of ignorance
b) Competing individual or small subgroup hypotheses with no hope of resolution
c) Shared imaginary "answers"

When humanity relied for survival on small and mid sized group cohesion, c provided a much greater basis for cooperation and in-group reinforcement.

Rainforestgoddess

(436 posts)
6. thus the ones who chose 'c'
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:17 PM
Sep 2012

were more likely to survive and pass on their genes.

Too bad it's a trait we can't easily reverse.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
8. I like that story.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:14 PM
Sep 2012

We try to tell this same sort of story all the time to people who criticize us, but for some reason, they just cannot get past the "atheist" designation.

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