I just want to say this...

[uriel1972]

If you give moral and/or material support to an organisation, you are responsible in part for its actions. Especially if your support is voluntary.

If saying this makes me a bigot, then so be it.

[libodem]

1. Oops

Did the ACLU defend a dirtbag or something? Those %$$@&.

[Apophis]

2. I agree.

[amuse bouche]

3. Of course you are correct

It is especially stunning to see people so passionate and pro equality for gays and women in their political beliefs, turn around and support an organization so against those same beliefs

There is no excuse and I'm absolutely disgusted

[awoke_in_2003]

14. They make as much sense...

as the Log Cabin Republicans.

[amuse bouche]

15. Great analogy

It's truly stupefying

[Phillip McCleod]

4. ruh-roh! did someone get the big-B from the nad-ster?

it happened so quickly i barely had time to react by hanging my head in shame for the human race.

oh, the humanity! we're *still* not letting christians keep their religious privileges! even after the new pope! what bigots.

[Arugula Latte]

10. I did! I have to embroider a giant "B" onto my shirt and wear it with shame in the village!

[Phillip McCleod]

12. me too :(

so i made this gif to express my feelings..

[uriel1972]

13. Go for the eyes, Boo! nt

[MellowDem]

5. Religious people...

are not used to having their membership with their belief system, which in most cases is perfunctory, actually criticized. They feel privileged and entitled to their beliefs with no criticism of any sort. That's why they can't handle relevant, legitimate criticism of their membership. They're privileged. Hell, some consider it something in your DNA, like you are born into it, which is just a further validation of childhood indoctrination, nearly the sole way new members of churches are made.

What's worse, they don't believe the things their belief system says, so they feel like they're being criticized for beliefs they don't hold, yet can't quite make the connection (or refuse to) that they identify with a belief system that has beliefs they don't hold, and that is intellectually dishonest and an example of cognitive dissonance.

[uriel1972]

6. I'm so tired. sick and tired...

of the word play, the dodgy logic and self-delusion. Yes you might be a small cog in a big machine, but you are still a part of it and what it does.

I feel as if athiests and lgbt people are being jettisoned. And as a member of both groups I am finding DU a bit toxic at the moment.

I should be able to tear myself away for a while and regain my equilibrium, but I am finding it difficult at the moment. /sigh

[trotsky]

7. But you see, atheists and LGBTers don't have the numbers Catholics do.

Or the prominent politicians.

So therefore we (and our issues) are far less important and can be safely ignored, or at least put aside lest we offend any Catholics by pointing out their church works against them. As one person noted in a thread a few days ago, if someone at DU was a member of Westboro Church and used the excuses Catholics are giving, they'd be PPRed in an instant.

[deucemagnet]

8. Hal Sparks nailed it on the radio this morning.

If you criticized the Bush administration over the war, you were called un-American or were accused of not supporting the troops. Nobody wants to be called that, so it stifles criticism.

If you criticize Israeli policy, you are labeled anti-Israel, or worse, an antisemite. Nobody wants to be called an antisemite, so it stifles criticism.

Hal didn't mention the Catholic church, but the same thing applies. If you criticize the Catholic church, you are called a bigot. Same trick, different tricksters.

[progressoid]

9. Yup. n/t

[Arugula Latte]

11. If some of these offendees took a tiny fraction of the time they spend whining

about suggestions to leave the Church and used it to be offended when their church says being gay is wrong and being a woman means you are a second-class citizen, well, uh ... hell ... why do I even bother ...