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progressoid

(49,991 posts)
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 02:46 PM Jan 2015

Pastor: I punched a kid ‘as hard as I could’ for ‘not taking the Lord serious’

Pastor Eric Dammann begins by saying that he met a young man in Calgary named “Ben,” who was “a nice kid, but one of those — he was a real smart aleck. He was a bright kid, which didn’t help things — made him more dangerous.”

“We were outside one day at youth group,” Dammann continues, “and he was just trying to push my buttons. He was just kind of not taking the Lord serious (sic).”

“So I walked over to him and went BAM! Punched him in the chest as hard as I could. I crumpled the kid. I just crumpled him.”

“Then I leaned over and said, ‘Ben, when are you going to stop playing games with God?’ I led that man to the Lord right there,” he concludes.



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/pastor-i-punched-a-kid-as-hard-as-i-could-for-not-taking-the-lord-serious/
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Pastor: I punched a kid ‘as hard as I could’ for ‘not taking the Lord serious’ (Original Post) progressoid Jan 2015 OP
Yes, fundies everywhere agree that intelligent people are a threat. trotsky Jan 2015 #1
Would that kid like some assault and battery along with his JDDavis Jan 2015 #2
I predict Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #3
Yep, I wouldn't expect Ben to last long in that setting. progressoid Jan 2015 #5
I noticed this one in GD. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #4
We should be seeing Ben Gelliebeans Jan 2015 #6
How does his congregation sit there and watch this and not get up and walk out? Kevin from WI Jan 2015 #7
Oh wow amuse bouche Jan 2015 #8
Assuming that story isn't fabricated bullshit... AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #9
Most likely, the story is fabricated bullshit. Mariana Jan 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #12
Thank you, Pastor Dammmann: You just said that stupid kids have it easier at accepting God. DetlefK Jan 2015 #11
Second time this week I've read about a religious leader advocating punching folks. wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #13
from Snopes: frogmarch Jan 2015 #14

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
1. Yes, fundies everywhere agree that intelligent people are a threat.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 02:54 PM
Jan 2015

Even a lot of moderate believers get plenty upset with anyone who questions or criticizes belief.

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
2. Would that kid like some assault and battery along with his
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 03:11 PM
Jan 2015

serving of Jesus?

This is an amazingly honest account of the desperation felt and acted upon by devout believers when their beliefs are questioned.

Fortunately, we can observe that desperation on a message board here without fear of being punched. Instead, we just witness the usual amount of arrogant comments, avoidance of direct answers and/or ad-hominem insults from the usual suspects.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
3. I predict
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 04:48 PM
Jan 2015

that "Ben" was not led to the Lord right there. In fact, I see a budding atheist if he wasn't there already.

Keep up the good word, Eric. We don't go door-to-door looking for converts so we need so way of recruiting new members.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
4. I noticed this one in GD.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 05:18 PM
Jan 2015

And yea, the guy thinks beating youngsters for the sake of conversion to the one true faith is fine, but what about Stalin? or something.

Kevin from WI

(184 posts)
7. How does his congregation sit there and watch this and not get up and walk out?
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 09:18 AM
Jan 2015

He "led that man to the lord"... well your lord must be an asshole if he advocates hitting kids at youth groups.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
9. Assuming that story isn't fabricated bullshit...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:40 AM
Jan 2015

He's awful lucky he didn't flat out kill the kid. You can stop someone's heart by hitting them in the chest hard enough, without any warning.

What kind of dickhead bully sucker-punches someone like that anyway?

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
10. Most likely, the story is fabricated bullshit.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 05:00 AM
Jan 2015

Also likely, his congregation knows it's fabricated bullshit.

Has anyone called the police on this guy? He admitted to committing a crime in front of a bunch of witnesses. I think there should be an investigation, and if I'm wrong and he really did assault someone, he should be prosecuted.

Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #9)

wavesofeuphoria

(525 posts)
13. Second time this week I've read about a religious leader advocating punching folks.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jan 2015

Both men.

Women take note. I can see the justifications for spousal abuse forming here ...

frogmarch

(12,154 posts)
14. from Snopes:
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 11:27 AM
Jan 2015
Although Dammann did relate this anecdote as a real-life incident in which he took part, no witnesses have stepped forward to corroborate his account of the event, so there is no evidence documenting it actually took place as described (or even took place at all) other than his 13-year-old recollection.

The video circulated so widely that the Bible Baptist Church addressed the controversy on Facebook and on its web site. A statement attributed to Dammann posted to the church's site on 12 January 2015 expressed his remorse for boasting about the incident:

I deeply regret my actions of 13 years ago. I do not condone abuse in any form. I chose a very poor example from my past and very poor wording to describe it and deeply regret using it. By viewing the clip it is certainly understandable how outraged people are. I acted out in one moment many years ago, it is not how I believe people especially a pastor should act. My actions were not reflective of Christ and the teachings of the bible. I was wrong, there are no excuses to be made. I was forgiven by Ben many years ago and can only ask the same from my church, community and the world.


Dammann did not deny the incident and apologized both for his part in it and the tone with which he conveyed his account of it. No one has corroborated the story, but neither has Dammann said anything that could be considered an attempt to downplay or recant any of his original claims.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/pastorpunch.asp#zPFGU0Uew4gM5J5C.99


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