Atheists & Agnostics
Related: About this forumReligion’s Dirty Dozen—12 Really Bad Religious Ideas That Have Made the World Worse
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Chosen People The term Chosen People typically refers to the Hebrew Bible and the ugly idea that God has given certain tribes a Promised Land (even though it is already occupied by other people). But in reality many sects endorse some version of this concept. The New Testament identifies Christians as the chosen ones. They talk about Gods elect, and in Calvinism these privileged few were chosen before the beginning of time. Jehovahs witnesses believe that 144,000 souls will get a special place in the afterlife. In many cultures certain privileged and powerful bloodlines were thought to be descended directly from gods (in contrast to everyone else).
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Heretics Heretics, kafir, or infidels (to use the medieval Catholic term) are not just outsiders, they are morally suspect and often seen as less than fully human. In the Torah, slaves taken from among outsiders dont merit the same protections as Hebrew slaves. Those who dont believe in a god are corrupt, doers of abominable deeds. There is none [among them] who does good, says the Psalmist.
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Holy War If war can be holy, anything goes. The medieval Roman Catholic Church conducted a twenty year campaign of extermination against heretical Cathar Christians in the south of France, promising their land and possessions to real Christians who signed on as crusaders. Sunni and Shia Muslims have slaughtered each other for centuries. The Hebrew scriptures recount battle after battle in which their war God, Yahweh, helps them to not only defeat but also exterminate the shepherding cultures that occupy their Promised Land. As in later holy wars, like the modern rise of ISIS, divine sanction let them kill the elderly and children, burn orchards, and take virgin females as sexual slavesall while retaining a sense of moral superiority.
Blasphemy Blasphemy is the notion that some ideas are inviolable, off limits to criticism, satire, debate, or even question. By definition, criticism of these ideas is an outrage, and that is precisely the emotion the crime of blasphemy evokes in believers. The Bible prescribes death for blasphemers; the Quran does not, but death-to-blasphemers became part of Shariah during medieval times.
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http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/tarico20150121
JDDavis
(725 posts)I liked the part about bibliolatry best.
So much of religion is bibliolatry.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Bibliolatry Bibliolatry Bibliolatry Bibliolatry Bibliolatry
It does seem to be the hugest, but also the most subtle, roadblock.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)The author applied logic, something that's missing in the lives of most compartmentalised people.
JDDavis
(725 posts)I am bookmarking that site. Never had seen it before.
Some excellent reading material there.
Here is an excerpt from one other article I came across there.
God is an invention of our imagination and for many people a seductive idea. (Appleman has in mind the Judeo-Christian God, but this idea would be applicable to other gods as well.) People in general have never exhibited much passion for the disciplined pursuit of knowledge, but they are always tempted by easy answers. God is an easy answer. (16) A brain capable of asking questions without answers satisfies itself that some god is the answer, even though this is no answerthe term god only hides our ignorance.
Book review of "The Labyrinth: God, Darwin, and the Meaning of Life"
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/messerly20150119
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)"Change comes with introspection and insight, a willingness to acknowledge our faults and flaws while still embracing our strengths and potential for growth."
rurallib
(62,420 posts)should there not be an entry for the concept of a God as a bad idea. A divinity, a force, a what-have-you that man defines seems to be the very basis from which the others spring.
Really helped clarify some thoughts I have been having
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)But it really depends on what you mean by "gods", and getting the god-smacked to actually explain what they mean is generally very difficult. A pantheist view of god as the whole of experience and existence seems to be workable.
So for the most part I agree. When people say they "believe in god" they seem to instead mean that they have subscribed to bunch of whooey and bull-plucky that is ridiculous at best and frequently is an authoritarian paternalistic hate-ridden ideology.
There are reasonable people who think we need to combine rational thinking with transcendent experience - see e.g. Karl Jaspers and others, and they sort of have a point. But given the history of religion.....
Maineman
(854 posts)calimary
(81,304 posts)Thanks for posting. Tons of stuff here for my quotes collection!
Love that line about man being a beast that's condemned to be more than a beast.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)As long as perceptive brains survive, there'll be some sort of BS about superiority and the supreme beings invented to justify it. If I have ANY yearning for an afterlife, it's in a place where religion ain't.
marginlized
(357 posts)One of the worst I can think of that doesn't appear here is mind / body dualism.
That's the basis of the "we're not of this earth, we're really angels in mortal flesh" sort of thinking.
The whole homunculus argument. It separates us from our environment and tells us we have "dominion" over this earth.
I just read Nicholas Carr's "The Glass Cage: Automation and Us",
the mind is not sealed in the skull but extends throughout the body. We think not only with our brain but also with our eyes and ears, nose and mouth, limbs and torso. And when we use tools to extend our grasp, we think with them as well. Thinking, or knowledge-getting, is far from being the armchair thing it is often supposed to be, wrote the American philosopher and social reformer John Dewey in 1916. Hands and feet, apparatus and appliances of all kinds are as much a part of it as changes in the brain. To act is to think, and to think is to act.
http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/33482231-the-glass-cage-automation-and-us
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)I wonder how he thinks we even are aware of our eyes and ears, nose and mouth, limbs and torso.
phantom power
(25,966 posts)It comes with this nasty meme payload.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Yeah, I know she mentioned sacrifice, but blood atonement seems much worse to me. You're not just killing something or someone to make an invisible magic sky-man happy, you're killing something or someone because you did something naughty and that's the only way to make things right with the invisible sky-man. Brutality and self-loathing... two great tastes that taste great together.