Why divine intervention after the shooting instead of before? (Charleston)

[progree]

Last edited Fri Jun 19, 2015, 02:54 AM - Edit history (1)

About the woman who spotted the Charleston church shooter's car:

Florist spots Hyundai at light, helps catch shooting suspect
http://news.yahoo.com/florist-spots-hyundai-light-helps-catch-shooting-suspect-005352310.html

...She called it a matter of "divine intervention."

...But after she looked into the car and saw the driver, she began to get increasingly nervous.

She quickly pulled off the main highway and called her friend and boss, Todd Frady, asking what to do.

..."I'm going to go ahead and tell you, I was scared," Dills said. "I told Todd, if (the suspect) gets out of this car and starts shooting, you tell my family I'm gone (to heaven). I know where I'm going."

..."Make no mistake about it, I am not the hero here — God is the hero," Dills said. "People can believe that or not. He showed up here in Shelby, North Carolina."

Dills said she believes God put her in the right place at the right time.

I wonder if she wonders why God didn't intervene before the shooting, instead of after. Probably because it was God's will that 9 black people be shot to death, being that they are descendants of Ham?

I'm surprised she called her friend and boss, asking what to do. Why not pray for guidance from her real friend and boss, Jesus Christ?

[Yorktown]

1. That's because god works in mysterious ways

You've got to believe first.

Then I'll explain it to you.

[progressoid]

2. Yep. It's all part of his master plan.

[progree]

3. I suppose. Our ways are not God's ways. nm

[progree]

8. Finally - we have the explanation

NRA Board Member Blames Murdered Reverend For Death Of His Congregants In S.C. Church Mass Shooting

National Rifle Association board member Charles L. Cotton wrote that the victims of a mass shooting in a Charleston, South Carolina church died because of Reverend Clementa Pinckney's advocacy for gun safety laws.

... In a post on an online forum for Texas supporters of the concealed carry of handguns, Cotton wrote, "he voted against concealed-carry. Eight of his church members who might be alive if he had expressly allowed members to carry handguns in church are dead. Innocent people died because of his position on a political issue."

More: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141121859
More more: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/06/18/nra-board-member-blames-murdered-reverend-for-d/204057

It is God's way of teaching that foolish reverend and the people dumb enough to listen to him (and the rest of us libtards) that they/we should be packing heat. Onward Christian Soldiers!

[Yorktown]

21. You see? God always prevails in the end.

[Major Nikon]

26. It would be a pretty good trick to explain it even then

If mere mortals are unable to understand god's will, why do so many believers pretend to understand god's will?

[Yorktown]

27. You must take it on faith

That's what the host of another group told me when faced with an unanswerable question.

I saved that Swiss knife of an answer for later, and, magic presto, it works here.

Kind of.

[trotsky]

4. That drove me nuts too.

He can put her at a stoplight, but he couldn't put a deputy in the church to prevent 9 murders? Maddening.

[A HERETIC I AM]

14. Or blow out the tire of the little nitwit on the way to the church in the first place

sending him careening into a large tree.

How hard would it have been?

God doesn't work in mysterious ways.

God is an asshole.

[AlbertCat]

5. Typical egotistical crap

GOD saved ME! (but not the others)


EVERYTHING I do is special in the eyes of god.... he puts ME in the right place at the right time! (not you.)

[RussBLib]

6. that's too easy

the DEVIL had control of that young man!!

[progree]

7. Thanks. I forgot about that one. nm

[Arugula Latte]

16. Right. And even though the loving omnipotent deity created the devil in the first place,

the loving omnipotent deity sometimes gets slapped upside the head by that demon.

[RussBLib]

17. just shows you how strong the Devil is!!!

just playing Devil's advocate, so to speak.

(I do not personally subscribe to these views; they are a regurgitation of the kinds of things I have heard some faithiests say)

[Arugula Latte]

18. No, I know. I figure people posting in A&A don't really believe this stuff.

[Yorktown]

22. Most of us just believe in the one true god, the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster

RAmen

[Arugula Latte]

25. Indeed. Believing in other deities is just fusilli.

[Yorktown]

28. Which would be a penne in the ***

Hey, guys, I'm joining the bandwagon of atrocious puns.

[nil desperandum]

9. Intervention

he was calling those 9 home, so no intervention was needed.

[Curmudgeoness]

10. You dare to question the wisdom of God?

How brazen of you!

Actually, God was too busy at the time of the shooting listening to prayers by golfers and baseball players and all the people praying for some child with cancer.

[Yorktown]

23. Or maybe God himself was playing golf?

He plays by throwing planets into black holes of distant galaxies.

Comets are the watering system of the course.

[onager]

11. Glad you posted this.

Saw it on the news this morning. Fortunately not while eating or I might have hurled.

I'm living in SC now so this story has been on the news continuously. (Though I am a long way from Charleston.) This morning we got some of the usual bland platitudes from Lindsey Graham. Who ran into a spot of trouble when the interviewer asked him about the Confederate flag flying at the state capitol bldg.

[progree]

12. Best explanation yet: Mental illness, evil, and Caitlyn Jenner

Erick Erickson joined the chorus of GOP presidential contenders in insisting that Dylann Roof’s motivation for murdering nine parishioners ... to the real problems in America today — mental illness and evil.

... The problem, Erickson contended, is that America can no longer have a conversation about “real evil” because of people like Caitlyn Jenner.

“A society that looks at a 65 year old male Olympian and, with a straight face, declares him a her and ‘a new normal’ cannot have a conversation about mental health or evil because that society no longer distinguishes normal from crazy and evil from good,” he wrote.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026869571

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/19/erick_erickson_responsibility_for_the_charleston_massacre_falls_squarely_at_the_feet_of_caitlyn_jenner/

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I never heard of Erick Erickson before, perhaps I spend too much time in the DU Bubble . But he's Red State’s Editor-in-Chief and the host of “The Erick Erickson Show”. FWIW.

[RussBLib]

13. what makes people susceptible?

I can see the same things online that Dylann saw.

I can read white supremacist websites and come away no more racist than when I started. Apparently Dylann could not.

Why and how can some people be exposed to evil and negative things and not be affected, while others fall under the spell?

Until we figure that out, we'll keep having more shit like this, and maybe after.

[Yorktown]

24. Evolutionary genes misfiring.

There are strong lines of gene code to buy into in-group vs out-group animosity.

Some take their coding waaaay further than most.

[Arugula Latte]

15. Yeah. It's frankly sad and pathetic how people don't connect the dots on this.

However, if you post or make a comment anything like this outside of A&A, people will jump down your throat.

[Warren Stupidity]

19. What? Nobody has shown up to snark and sneer

at the op? I'm shocked. Oh wait, I forgot.

[AuntPatsy]

20. Sanity in an insane world

[mountain grammy]

29. I was chastised in GD for commenting on a

Child's drawing of a church with black angels overhead. I commented that it cleaned things up too easily,blah, blah. Yes it was a child, but children need a small dose of reality instead of the angel fairy tale. Anyway, just needed a little rant about that. I won't do that again in GD.

[AtheistCrusader]

30. I believe the term is "fuck you, got mine"