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Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 12:54 PM Jun 2015

Religion In The Comics - 032

We skip a few issues and go to #8 of Treasure Comics, cover dated August 1946. It features artwork by a young Frank Frazetta. He was only 18, and only saw Indians in the movies because he has them in loin cloths in the middle of winter.






What a happy Christian ending. At last they can build a new life for themselves. Only after slaughtering the natives who were only trying to defend their homeland. Here's some perspective on that Christian settler Benjamin Church: (from Wikipedia)

Church was eventually allowed to recruit Indians when traditional Army tactics of the times were unsuccessful. He persuaded many neutral or formerly hostile Indians to surrender and join his unit, where they operated skillfully as irregular troops. Some of these men had converted to Christianity in settlements before the war. These were known as Praying Indians*. After being organized by Church, these troops tracked Indians into the forests and swamps and conducted effective raids and ambushes on their camps.

*Praying Indian is a 17th-century term referring to Native Americans of New England, New York, Ontario, and Quebec who had converted to Christianity. While many groups are referred to by this term, it is more commonly used for tribes that were organized into villages, known as praying towns by those such as Puritan leader John Eliot, and Jesuit Missionaries of St. Regis and Kahnawake (formerly known as Caughnawaga) and as well as the Missionaries among the Hurons in western Ontario.

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Religion In The Comics - 032 (Original Post) Cartoonist Jun 2015 OP
Well, that sucks. mr blur Jun 2015 #1
Thanks! Loincloths and teepees... onager Jun 2015 #2
Frazetta got better at drawing Indians edhopper Jun 2015 #3
Love the "That Girl!" hair dos!!!!! AlbertCat Jun 2015 #4
Did Indians have kings? Called Phillip? mr blur Jun 2015 #5
I wondered about that too. onager Jul 2015 #7
"... or they will take all our land." - "At last we can build a new life for ourselves." DetlefK Jul 2015 #6
 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
1. Well, that sucks.
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jun 2015

Another victory for the vicious white guys.

Had no idea that Frazetta started out drawing ugly cliches of Native Americans, though I guess that if that's what you want to do, you take what's available.

I was once a fan of Frazetta back in the '70s until I got bored with the John Milius sub-Conan sexist fantasy wet dream element of it all. But, hell, the guy could draw!

onager

(9,356 posts)
2. Thanks! Loincloths and teepees...
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:53 PM
Jun 2015

You're right, Frazetta's knowledge of Native Americans seems to have been limited to Western movies of the times.

Along with having them running around half-nekkid in the snow, he shows them living in teepees. The Western Plains Indians lived in teepees because they were a nomadic people and the teepee was easy to move.

East Coast tribes were settled and lived in huts, longhouses etc. just like the palefaces. I'm currently sitting near the former capital of the Cherokee Nation. Where old drawings show not a single teepee to be found.

/pedant again

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
4. Love the "That Girl!" hair dos!!!!!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:54 AM
Jun 2015

and the pastel colored teepees.

"Little teepees on the hillside,
Little teepees made of ticky tacky,
Little teepees on the hillside,
Little teepees all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one,
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same."


Like the guy getting hit by an arrow says: "Ugh!" (I thought that's what injuns say.... like "how!&quot

onager

(9,356 posts)
7. I wondered about that too.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jul 2015

According to the Cesspool Of Lies, Wiki: his real name was Metacom or Metacomet. He took the name "Phillip" to honor his father's friendship with those illegal immigrants who came over on the Mayflower. Considering how things worked out, he probably wanted his old name back.

At least Chief Pontiac ended up as an Art Deco masterpiece on the hood of a car. And he lit up along with the headlights on the most expensive models:



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