Atheists & Agnostics
Related: About this forumI'm rather enjoying this antichrist stuff.
Of course, as an atheist, I don't buy into either Christ or anti-Christ stuff, but to the extent it moves thise who do, well, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
I grew up with an aunt (who I loved very much) who was a Jehovah's Witness, and their literature when she visited (which she was always leaving around my house despite my parents objections) and every news story involving politicians was taken as an "end times" warning. The world was ending in 1965, 1970, 1975 and so on.
After a time, while loving her, I was simply amused. As it happened, I feel she helped me toward atheism although that was obviously not her intent.
I have always objected to religion in politics but there seems to be oodles of it now, but at least they're increasingly confused about which side they're on.
These are terrible times and whatever helps to close them is fine with me.
kimbutgar
(27,327 posts)He is Antichrist like !
I also had an aunt who was a Jehova Witness I used to love her until she started sounding crazy and she left her estate to the church and screwed over her two children.
NNadir
(38,188 posts)...most selfless persons I ever knew.
One of the happiest memories I have is taking her and my cousin to lunch when my cousin was dying of cancer, and letting her know how much I appreciated what she did for me.
She denied that she'd ever done anything for me, but at that lunch I corrected her.
This, of course, not about her closing the deal on my atheism, but rather the help she gave me when my mother was dying. I might not have lived through it myself without her help and that of my other aunts.
I have less of a problem with religious people who live the positives of their theology than those for whom it's just lip service. She and my cousin lived the positives of their faith, and I am grateful for their memory.
Deuxcents
(27,180 posts)Told me they didnt want anything to do with me or my offspring. Im a much better person since leaving it all behind and dont regret anything.
Blue Owl
(59,263 posts)IbogaProject
(5,955 posts)Rather than any of the death and destruction.
NNadir
(38,188 posts)jfz9580m
(17,367 posts)My brain is settling down after having been thoroughly scrambled.
A lot of the time I am annoyed at any further wait time before surreptitiously getting back to work in a way that isnt so repellant it would turn people like me off from science work were it seen.
Or similarly understated community that again doesnt turn people like me off from the concept.
And distance from jerks. There arent many humans who are mostly jerks, but there are some.
I am cavalier only with pushy, manipulative self-serving jerks, sleazebags and creeps. Carlin was pretty cool wasnt he. But I can do without Dudesy.
For the rest with these damn many people it strains most tempers at times and at other times ones innate humanism in its non-diseased form salvages ones brain.
I might be an absurdist philosophically. Why oh why....
At least the obnoxious type A or the scheming jerks are no better off than me by now..ha ha suckers.
I have been trying to untangle a skein of thoughts I have on religion, conservativism, politics (real, sports teams adjacent, disingenuous), gender, personality, context, machines, humans, how much I hate Zuckerberg etcs minions, emotions, the sensitivity ranges of ones various dars, politicians and public figures).
It is a work in progress.
The point is that what is bothering me is probably tied to constitutional law.
I have to parse this, as I rather like Aziz Huq:
https://www.bostonreview.net/forum/the-dead-end-of-checks-and-balances/aziz-huq-responds/
https://www.bostonreview.net/forum/the-dead-end-of-checks-and-balances/
Lina Khan works in anti-trust law, which is probably applicable as well, but not as directly. I saw another legal scholar Nina Farhany, but she seems like a very nice person so I stopped following her.
Society is dealing with some very malicious forces..man Lina Khan was so awesome.
Lina Khan will be remembered by history. I am rarely a fan or an enthusiast as a rule. She was an exception.
I suppose people felt that way about FDR. The one time an actual, real supporter of sanity got into the system. As opposed to the usual- okay thats the best on offer..I suppose one has no other options.
Anyway that debate is more akin to honest disagreements one sees in science or other areas where people just have different opinions without acrimony or malice.
I often dont have strong opinions absent malice or deceit or stupidity or where ott stuff is not peddled like denying obvious errors or insisting that limits to growth do not exist; racial IQ (that one is too stupid to bother with); that the planet is not overpopulated and that Koch style migration is the fix.
After Trump and what I have been through I think laws need strengthening for migrants, women etc in ways that Koch/tech/assholes/ai companies etc have no say in and which have bipartisan humanist support. You cannot throw away womens rights and portray that as a girlboss vs a good guy thing.
Separation of church and state is important at a time of ubiquitous malicious influence that strains communities.
Say what you will about JD Vance, his anti-democratic instincts are really solid. He understood that the solitary Catlady is someone to kick out of society for this fascistic project to succeed.