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Pre-dawn Venus, I think (Original Post) elleng Aug 2022 OP
If you were looking northeast, that's what it was. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #1
Looking south east-ish, elleng Aug 2022 #2
Then it wasn't Venus. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #4
Definitely Venus DarthDem Aug 2022 #3
Thanks. Thought so, but didn't catch later/closer to sun-rise. elleng Aug 2022 #6
Sky Safari says: usonian Aug 2022 #5
After I posted, the more I thought about it, the more I thought it was Sirius too. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #7
Yeah, this is probably right DarthDem Aug 2022 #8
In the DC area, Jupiter transits at about 3:00 a.m. right now. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #9
I went out this morning, Thursday, August 18, 2022, at 5:26 a.m. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #10
GREAT! elleng Aug 2022 #11
Friday morning, 3:25 a.m. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #12
Must have been cloudy here tho said 'clear,' saw only maybe a star or so @ 4 a.m., no moon! elleng Aug 2022 #13

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,567 posts)
1. If you were looking northeast, that's what it was.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 03:59 PM
Aug 2022

Mercury, and I don't know if that is currently visible, is much closer to the sun and not that bright. It's tough to see.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,567 posts)
4. Then it wasn't Venus.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 04:19 PM
Aug 2022

It's August, so the sun rises in the northeast. Jupiter or Mars, maybe? A star?

Hey, I think I know what you were looking at. In August, we begin the see the constellations of winter. You might have been looking at Aldebaran. That's to the southeast at dawn now. Can you see the Pleiades?

A plane will be illuminated by sunlight, so it will appear yellowish. A star will be bluish-white.

DarthDem

(5,256 posts)
3. Definitely Venus
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 04:15 PM
Aug 2022

Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are in the evening sky at this point. Also, bright pre-dawn or dusk "star" in the sun's direction almost always means Venus.

And great picture!

elleng

(131,041 posts)
6. Thanks. Thought so, but didn't catch later/closer to sun-rise.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 04:42 PM
Aug 2022

ONE of my bedroom windows, and has looked east for as long as I (and it) have been here. I did look for others, at that hour, but this bright thing was the only thing visible.

SADLY, gonna have storms tonight and into the morning, so FULL Moon won't be visible, and will/would be moving westerly from the south.

Moon not forecast to rise until after 7:30 p.m, and to set @@ 4 a.m.

usonian

(9,847 posts)
5. Sky Safari says:
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 04:40 PM
Aug 2022

Venus to the NE, Sirius to the SE. You should see both. Just before sunrise. Everything else is a LOT dimmer.



Any earlier, Sirius is not visible. I think the time is an hour off, even though I set DST. Go figure.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,567 posts)
7. After I posted, the more I thought about it, the more I thought it was Sirius too.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 06:56 AM
Aug 2022

It's late enough in the year that Sirius is getting visible in the pre-dawn sky.

Sirius is due south at midnight on New Year's Eve.

Sirius is due south at 6:00 p.m. on April 1.

Sirius is due south at noon on July 1.

Sirius is due south at 6:00 a.m. on October 1.

I've changed my vote to Sirius. Aldebaran and the Pleiades are much higher in the sky now.

DarthDem

(5,256 posts)
8. Yeah, this is probably right
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 11:32 PM
Aug 2022

I missed the more specific directional cues. Sirius generally looks about as bright as Jupiter.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,567 posts)
9. In the DC area, Jupiter transits at about 3:00 a.m. right now.
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 06:13 AM
Aug 2022

That means it's as high up as it's going to get, and as far south as it's going to get. It's unmistakable.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,567 posts)
10. I went out this morning, Thursday, August 18, 2022, at 5:26 a.m.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:07 AM
Aug 2022

The moon was straight up. Jupiter was "ahead" of it, already into the western half of the night sky. The Pleiades and Aldebaran were "near" the moon, a little to the east. The moon will rise tonight at the same time that the Pleiades and Aldebaran rise.

Orion was already well up. Rigel was easy to spot. Maybe that's what you saw. Sirius was barely above the southeastern horizon.

{edited, after going out early Friday morning}

The Pleiades and Mars were "near" the moon. Aldebaran was still in the eastern half of the sky.

elleng

(131,041 posts)
11. GREAT!
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 04:52 PM
Aug 2022

I saw NOTHING @ 5:26 a.m., but did catch the moon 'early' in it's ascent, around 2; will post pic.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,567 posts)
12. Friday morning, 3:25 a.m.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 07:11 AM
Aug 2022

Mars and the moon were close to each other. The Pleiades were near both of them. Aldebaran trailed to the east. I didn't see Orion up yet, but there are trees in the way.

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