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bigtree

(85,999 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:57 PM Jan 2016

Elizabeth Warren Doesn't Support Rand Paul's Audit the Fed Bill

from the WSJ:

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.), a member of the Banking Committee and an outspoken critic of the Fed’s oversight of big banks, said she does not support Mr. Paul’s proposed legislation, which she said could have “dangerous” implications for monetary policy.

“I strongly support and continue to press for greater congressional oversight of the Fed’s regulatory and supervisory responsibilities, and I believe the Fed’s balance sheet should be regularly audited – which the law already requires,” Ms. Warren said in an emailed statement. “But I oppose the current version of this bill because it promotes congressional meddling in the Fed’s monetary policy decisions, which risks politicizing those decisions and may have dangerous implications for financial stability and the health of the global economy.”



read: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/02/10/sen-warren-opposes-audit-the-fed-bill/

related:

Sen. Sanders Remains a Backer of the 'Audit the Fed' Bill (UPDATE: Effort Fails)

http://reason.com/blog/2016/01/12/sen-sanders-remains-a-backer-in-auditing
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Elizabeth Warren Doesn't Support Rand Paul's Audit the Fed Bill (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2016 OP
Thanks, bigtree. elleng Jan 2016 #1
let's see if folks here are interested in more than defending Bernie bigtree Jan 2016 #3
I will. Bailing out foreign banks should mmonk Jan 2016 #5
as if dozens of HRC's right-wing pursuits aren't defended here by her supporters. kath Jan 2016 #9
Such a conflict. Having to admit either Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders is wrong. This thread seaglass Jan 2016 #10
lol bigtree Jan 2016 #11
This goes beyond politics or party. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #14
no it doesn't bigtree Jan 2016 #17
The sham is bailing out the fraudsters who spent not 1 day in jail and got bonuses. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #18
The Fed is already audited. MineralMan Jan 2016 #2
They are audited by Deloitte & Touche. The GAO is the one who would be doing the audit. Skwmom Jan 2016 #12
I disagree in one sense. A President needs to mmonk Jan 2016 #4
there are already meaningful audits of the Fed bigtree Jan 2016 #7
Meaningful audits? Skwmom Jan 2016 #13
what do you think you'd get out of Rand Paul's bill? bigtree Jan 2016 #16
So why hasn't such an audited been performed since 2011? Skwmom Jan 2016 #20
Why is Bernie joining with the Republicans on this? Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #6
I support Bernie, but agree with Warren and her reasoning. nt Lucky Luciano Jan 2016 #8
Thanks for posting, glad she is my Senator! Agschmid Jan 2016 #15
I agree with Warren, but will continue my support for Bernie ram2008 Jan 2016 #19
that's reasonable bigtree Jan 2016 #21
kick bigtree Jan 2016 #22

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
3. let's see if folks here are interested in more than defending Bernie
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jan 2016

...wouldn't be the first right-wing pursuit defended here for the sake of defending Sen. Sanders.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
5. I will. Bailing out foreign banks should
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jan 2016

be subject to Congressional oversight not after the fact.

kath

(10,565 posts)
9. as if dozens of HRC's right-wing pursuits aren't defended here by her supporters.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jan 2016

Sheesh.



(Not that auditing the Fed is a "right wing pursuit", IMO)

seaglass

(8,173 posts)
10. Such a conflict. Having to admit either Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders is wrong. This thread
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jan 2016

is destined to die a quick death.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
11. lol
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jan 2016

...that sinking feeling in the pit of the stomach when folks realize they'll need to swallow a Rand Paul tea party initiative along with a defense of Bernie.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
12. They are audited by Deloitte & Touche. The GAO is the one who would be doing the audit.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jan 2016

First of all, the GAO could do a different TYPE of audit than D&T.

Secondly, public accounting firms are as untrustworthy as our government. If people only knew.....

Impressed with Warren? No. She's reminding me more and more of Obama in 2008.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
7. there are already meaningful audits of the Fed
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jan 2016

...this bill isn't about that, as Elizabeth Warren correctly states.


The Government Accountability Office (GAO) conducts numerous reviews of Federal Reserve activities.

The Board's financial statements, and its compliance with laws and regulations affecting those statements, are audited annually by an outside auditor retained by the Office of Inspector General (OIG).

The Board's OIG audits and investigates Board programs and operations as well as those Board functions delegated to the Reserve Banks. Completed and active GAO reviews and completed OIG audits, reviews, and assessments are listed in the Board's Annual Report. (Before 2002, the reviews were listed in the Board's Annual Report: Budget Review.)

The financial statements of the Reserve Banks are also audited annually by an independent outside auditor.

Each week, the Federal Reserve publishes its balance sheet and charts of recent balance sheet trends, as well as provides an interactive guide to the Fed's balance sheet. The balance sheet is included in the Federal Reserve's H.4.1 statistical release, "Factors Affecting Reserve Balances of Depository Institutions and Condition Statement of Federal Reserve Banks."

In addition, the Reserve Banks are subject to annual examination by the Board. The Board's financial statements and the combined financial statements for the Reserve Banks are published in the Board's Annual Report.


here's Bernie remarking on an audit in 2011:

Thursday, July 21, 2011

The first top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve uncovered eye-popping new details about how the U.S. provided a whopping $16 trillion in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks and businesses during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. An amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders to the Wall Street reform law passed one year ago this week directed the Government Accountability Office to conduct the study.

more: http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/the-fed-audit

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
13. Meaningful audits?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jan 2016

Reserve Board auditing itself - yeah that's real meaningful.

The Independent Auditors - They only do a certain type of audit and it may not even be worth the paper it is written on. Public accounting firms work within a system that is rife with corruption. Watch American Greed sometime.

The GAO. Just because it performs numerous reviews does NOT mean that there aren't plenty of REALLY meaningful operations and transactions that are NOT being reviewed. Plus, it is 2016. Has the Fed had another in-depth audit?


bigtree

(85,999 posts)
16. what do you think you'd get out of Rand Paul's bill?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jan 2016

...because THAT'S what this is about - not some fantastical audit that you've imagined Sen. Sanders voted for.


2011: http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/the-fed-audit

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
20. So why hasn't such an audited been performed since 2011?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jan 2016

I'm beginning to think that they are desperate to keep either recent or future actions hidden from the American Public - especially with an election coming up.
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