Bernie's Insurgent Campaign Is Starting to Make the Corporate Democrats Panic

[Ferd Berfel]

by Thom Hartmann

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernies-insurgent-campaign-starting-make-corporate-democrats-panic


If Sanders can pull off a two-state sweep of the early primaries, that would completely change the dynamic of the race.


Now, considering the fact that Bernie Sanders does better than Hillary Clinton in a hypothetical matchup with Republican frontrunner Donald Trump, you'd think the establishment Democrats would be thrilled with these developments. You'd think the people who talk so much about "electability" and how important it is, would be overjoyed that Bernie Sanders, a popular and electable candidate, is moving toward the Democratic nomination.

Apparently not.

Instead of celebrating the rise of a new star, establishment Democrats are freaking out about the possibility of Bernie Sanders winning both Iowa and New Hampshire. Case in point: former Tennessee congressman Harold Ford, Jr., who on MSNBC agreed with Joe Scarborough that establishment Dems could recruit John Kerry or Joe Biden to run if Bernie sweeps both early primary states.

Pretty weird, right?

[kath]

1. Fuck Harold Ford.

Sleazy DINO.

[highprincipleswork]

6. Vigorously.

[Duval]

27. Sideways!!

[Fuddnik]

15. With a chainsaw.

[Fearless]

37. Rusty chainsaw

[JeaneRaye]

21. I agree!

[Enthusiast]

25. Me too.

[Vincardog]

2. Corporate sell outs are rightly afraid their lies are no longer selling.

[cantbeserious]

13. ^^^ This ^^^

eom

[kenfrequed]

3. This is a good sign

It is a sign that we are getting closer to achieving real change within the Democratic party. Whatever happens we are doing better and better. The people in the party have been rejecting candidates like Ford for quite some time now, and no amount of moving them around to different districts has helped matters. The fact that Ford is saying things that are completely destructive to the party all to stop a truly progressive candidate tells me more about the absolute desperation over at the DNC.

Within a decade we should have a party that is more progressive, more populist, and stronger than ever. At the same time the demographic disintegration of the Republican party will help usher in a new era. In many ways, whether he wins or loses, Bernie Sanders will be a transformative candidate for the left in the way that Reagan was for the right.

(for some reason I can't get that Billy Bragg song out of my head: "Waiting for the Great leap forward.&quot

[Duval]

28. Yes!! (I'll have to check out the Bragg song)

[Volaris]

42. How the hell does he think there would be enough time

Between NH and Super Tuesday for even the Vice President to sling together enough of a ground game to actually win enough votes ON Super Tuesday to secure the nomination, against someone who has been working on getting this accomplished for at least 6 months already?!?!

Whatever he's smoking I'd very much like some
Whatever he's afraid of...Fuck him.

[Dretownblues]

4. They should be

It started with Obama and it is continuing with Sanders. This isn't just about nominating Sanders it is about restoring the democratic party to what it should be, the party of the poor and middle class

[Ferd Berfel]

5. Don't forget that Bill Clinton (at least) was in Bed with The Koch Bros to get that damn DLC started

An August, 2000 Newsweek story on Joe Liebermn, The Soul And The Steel reveals that some of the early funding came from ARCO, Chevron, Merck, Du Pont, Microsoft, Philip Morris and Koch Industries:


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Democratic_Leadership_Council

I want my Party Back.

WE Need another FDR, we will not survive another Corporatist.


one last thing -


Father Of Koch Brothers Helped Build Nazi Oil Refinery, Book Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/us/politics/father-of-koch-brothers-helped-build-nazi-oil-refinery-book-says.html

[kath]

7. Yes. I. Want. My. Party. Back. Too.

[LiberalArkie]

18. Really Stephens Inc, but same deal

[thesquanderer]

8. Recruit Kerry to sidetrack Sanders?

What, are they afraid they might actually *win* in November?

[Skwmom]

10. Joe S said Kerry -Warren or Biden - Warren which would explain a lot of her

recent actions.

[tecelote]

12. The problem...

Biden or Kerry will draw supporters from Hillary. Bernie, not so much.

The only one that could do that would be Elizabeth.

[Skwmom]

9. The Corporate Democrats and other Democrats willing to sell out for personal gain.

A lot of things sure have been exposed this election cycle. The Democrats are fully aware of how the corrupt business has been done in Washington, yet they endorse and promote it.

I think Congressional approval is going to reach a new all time low.

In this environment they still think they can use their trick ponies and emotional manipulation to control the voters. With recent events, I find myself wondering just how low will they go? Is there nothing sacred and is there nothing that will not be used for political gain? What a cesspool.

And the same goes for the Republicans.

People are fed up with both parties.

[Dawson Leery]

11. Thom, you wonder why left wing talk radio never took off? This is why.

The left is not homogeneous and does not want to hear infomercials for the far side of the left.
The right does, but the center/left does not.

I turned of Schultz and Rhodes after 2008. I will do the same for the Young Turks if they keep up the Bernie infomercials.

With that said, I would gladly take Kerry or Warren over Bernie. They have enough experience and connections to make good things happen.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Left talk radio DID take off. It was the money manager

Of Air America that killed it. Nice RIGHT WING TALKING POINT though. Straight out of KKKRove's playbook.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[bread_and_roses]

19. I'd love to know how you define "center/left" & "far side of left"

For one thing, I have no clue what "center/left" is supposed to mean? As for "far side of left" what's that?

Is it Medicare for all? Expanding Social Security? A living wage? Taxing the rich? Closing corporate tax loopholes? All those things - and more of what the pundit class likes to call "left" are very broadly popular - so how are they "left" outside the beltway bubble?

As for "far left" - what far left? Who's calling for, say, nationalizing all industry? Not Bernie that I've heard.

Just slinging terms around does not mean you're making any kind of sense.

[passiveporcupine]

22. I will do the same for the Young Turks if they keep up the Bernie infomercials.

Of course you will...that's gotta hurt!

[Akamai]

24. Frankly I love hearing Bernie on the Thom Hartmann show -- I got a chance to ask him several

questions over the years. He sure seems like an total straight-shooter to me.

I like both Kerry and Warren (I really, really liked Warren's autobiography) but i really love Bernie's focus on things that are crucial and which no one else -- or at least not many people -- are talking about.

Go, Bernie!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

30. Neither of them are running, nor will they be, not in 2016.

I'll check in with you to make sure you've changed your mind after the nomination has been settled.

[Uncle Joe]

34. Ideological trends since 2000 in the Democratic Party argue othewise.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511001388

[zalinda]

40. That is self described.

What is there real position? They may be socially liberal, but not economically liberal, and that makes a BIG difference.

Z

[ViseGrip]

35. Bernie has more experience than Hillary or Liz, and Kerry won't win.

The younger ones did not turn out for Kerry and they won't again. Nor for Hillary. It's now 2-1 for Bernie. Biden can't get them either. You can't possibly be familiar with Bernie Sanders.

On DU I saw a post where someone wrote they were a Liz Warren supporter, but after she said she is not running, she was happy to learn about Bernie. He's been around WAY longer than Liz. As far as infomercials, the MSM has given Hillary documented time, way over that of Sanders. So a streaming only show, you cannot take after all the support for Hillary on MSM?
Hypocrisy abounds here at DU!

[pangaia]

38. The far side of the left?

Surely you jest.

I don't know how old you are but.. Eisenhower was just about as far 'left' as Sanders.

[Ferd Berfel]

45. That's a right wing talkig point

Well Done

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. That's laughable! Two men who have already run and lost! Biden ran twice and lost.

Just let 'em trying to steal the nomination from Bernie. If they think people are mad at TPTB and the corrupt DC politicians now, just try to stop Bernie.

This is the "political revolution" Bernie talks about. We aren't going to allow them to steal the nomination from him. Neither Kerry or Biden can do that either. They're worse than HRH!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Ferd Berfel]

44. Just show HOW freaking desperate they are

An FDR democrat scares the crap out of them

[Dont call me Shirley]

17. Right, Harry....

[greiner3]

20. I remember watching RFK in the back of a kitchen when he was a threat.

Which is why I fear Bernie getting on a plane auto bus train exercise cycle there r trillions of dollars to steal and Bernie will guard the vaults that our country has become

[SCantiGOP]

23. And the award goes to

Last edited Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Ferd Berfel for hyperbole in a title thread !!
But, he lost points for not using caps and bold.

On edit: didn't have to wait long for the CAPS - see 2 of the 4 posts below.

[99th_Monkey]

26. This is exactly what a POLITICAL REVOLUTION looks like!! Woot!! GO BERNIE! n/t

[Enthusiast]

29. Watch for the GOP to push the candidacy of Kasich.

The corporatists now recognize they must have a candidate with at least the appearance of sanity.

If Bernie takes the nomination they will be up a creek.

But Kascish is just as bad as the others he just moderates his speech and isn't such a crazy loudmouth.

[Uncle Joe]

31. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Ferd Berfel.

[WillyT]

32. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[fredamae]

33. I remember a couple months ago

the Third Way/DNC/Wall Street/Corp Dems and GOP laughed at him, dismissed him, said there is No way We, the People would accept a (spit/spat) "socialist", Ignored him.....yet, here we are---right smack in the middle of making history by participating in a very people powered grass roots "peoples campaign" for a much, much better future.
Their response and reactions to all of this verifies many who have long believed and stated congress, state legs, governors, city/county elected Do Not Care What We Think and What We Want in government(s). It's been this way for more and a couple decades. They mostly ignored us and continue-this very moment-with their Excellent servicing of Big Biz/W/S.

[Volaris]

43. Agreed and we need to be ready..

The real fight isn't electing Bernie, that's the first fight.
The REAL fight is the off-year Congressional 2 years later,
because if you think Congress is useless now, JUST WAIT. The first 2 years of a Sanders Term would consist of not just the expected Republican opposition that Obama has experienced; it would include every corporate-sellout 'Democrat' who's wallet is about to get lighter.

EVERY SINGLE ONE.

The real fight is bankrolling and then voting for LIBERALS in every district and State in 2018. I think Bernie well knows this, and is ready. The rest of us need to be as well, or we will get nothing but 4 years of Lame Duck served to us by our Corporate Overlords. And while we all choke to death on it, the DLC will hold the video camera and say 'see, we told you the Republicans would hurt you.'

[fredamae]

46. You are correct and it

actually includes HRC as well -should she be successful-imo
It is As important imo to elect a new congress and with 289(?) total seats up we Have a very open window to boot the worst of the worst from congress this year so Sanders Will have a much better chance -

[Carol Morgan]

36. I must be confused...

But, but....what...what about the loyalty oath all of us were supposed pledge to?

You know the one...that says whoever wins the primary is the one we all vote for?

Wait...wait...they didn't really mean that, did they?

[turbinetree]

39. FOR ALL OF US IN THE "FEEL THE BERN" MOVEMENT .............................

bring it on.....................................really bring it on................................

And as for Mr. Ford, please tell all of us what you voted for while you were in office when it came to "trade deals", here is a reminder a costly one for workers and there US plants


http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Harold_Ford_Free_Trade.htm


This vote you took is just like the TPP that is now coming up for a vote, it lowers the the issue of sovereignty of the citizens of this country just like what is now happening with the Trans-Canada oil company suing this country for the loss of a profit, exactly the same thing that CAFTA, NAFTA are doing and what the TPP would do and you voted yes to CAFTA.





Honk-------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

It is about getting a progressive U.S. Supreme Court, Congress and State and Local Governments

[SoapBox]

41. Thom ran clips of Hill AND Chels from yesterday...

Spewing the lies about Bernie's stance on healthcare and single payer.

Right there...in color...video proof of the dirty politics that Hill will resort to.

The Hill campaign is in flat out panic mode...as it should be since Americans every minute are getting on board with a winner...Bernie Sanders.

[99Forever]

47. They should be afraid.

They've had plenty of time and opportunity to clean up their act, instead they got worse with each passing day. Their days are numbered.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.