Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:14 PM Jan 2016

US NEWS: Hillary Clinton doubled down on her daughter's words today

emphasis added:

Clinton's Health Care Attack Makes No Sense
The Clinton camp is lambasting Bernie Sanders' health care plan, but its critique is blatantly dishonest.
By Pat Garofalo
Jan. 13, 2016, at 12:40 p.m.


Clinton is lambasting Sanders' proposal for a universal, single-payer health care system. And she's doing it in a pretty dishonest way.

...

Clinton's daughter Chelsea got in on the act, too, in an even worse manner, claiming that Sanders wants to "dismantle Obamacare." She said: "I worry if we give Republicans Democratic permission to do that, we'll go back to an era, before we had the Affordable Care Act, that would strip millions and millions and millions of people off their health insurance."

This is mostly rank nonsense. A single-payer system, like it does in many other countries, would cover everybody, period. To say otherwise is either willfully misunderstanding how it would work or simple scaremongering.

...

Chelsea Clinton's attack is even worse, making it sound as if Sanders is like the Republicans who call to "repeal and replace" Obamacare without actually drafting a "replace" plan. As former Obama administration adviser David Axelrod said on CNN last night, "Bernie Sanders is proposing single-payer, universal healthcare. You can hardly say he is trying to take health care away from anyone or retreat from Obamacare. He's trying to exceed it. And so it's not really an honest attack."

But Hillary Clinton doubled down on her daughter's words on Wednesday, saying on "Good Morning America" that Sanders would "take everything we currently know as health care, Medicare, Medicaid, the CHIP Program, private insurance, now of the Affordable Care Act, and roll it together.” As she knows, since she is well-versed in health care policy, that's a feature, not a bug of single-payer; the alphabet soup of insurance programs is one of things that makes American health care so confusing and inefficient. Instead of attacking the idea on the merits, she's choosing to make it seem as if Sanders has a callous disregard for people losing health insurance.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pat-garofalo/articles/2016-01-13/hillary-clintons-bizarre-attack-on-bernie-sanders-health-care-plan

.

36 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
US NEWS: Hillary Clinton doubled down on her daughter's words today (Original Post) cui bono Jan 2016 OP
What a maroon Kalidurga Jan 2016 #1
Yeah, so those who don't think she lies can now think she doesn't understand the concept. cui bono Jan 2016 #3
What a ignoranamous Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #11
Maroon?.....lol! Segami Jan 2016 #13
"Defender of private health insurance" is not what I'd call a progressive candidate. arcane1 Jan 2016 #2
Right, sounds UglyGreed Jan 2016 #4
corporations are people too my friend... Kalidurga Jan 2016 #5
They sure are Dretownblues Jan 2016 #32
Nor is "I represented Wall Street" which she stated in a debate. n/t cui bono Jan 2016 #6
But, but, you forgot the magic words...... Fuddnik Jan 2016 #16
Cut it out! cui bono Jan 2016 #33
Sad and crazy kenfrequed Jan 2016 #7
It's about time. cui bono Jan 2016 #8
About time. 840high Jan 2016 #18
When your opponent is making a mistake Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #9
Lies and distortions are her only hope Broward Jan 2016 #10
It's a feature, not a bug. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #12
The Clintons take the low road when they're desperate jfern Jan 2016 #14
Hillary trying to scare people with single payer should lose her some support. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #15
She is a very bad person fbc Jan 2016 #17
Last year there was little 840high Jan 2016 #19
She is indeed. I don't like her. She's dishonest and insincere. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #28
Going down in flames. PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #20
truly spoken, cui bono. I was just watching Joan Walsh formerly of salon roguevalley Jan 2016 #21
It is somewhat disturbing how many work for her. cui bono Jan 2016 #35
There are several playbooks she got this strategy from INdemo Jan 2016 #22
1993 signed photo from Hillary to Bernie passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #23
This is the slimy side of the clintons that I don't like Don Draper Jan 2016 #24
Jesse Jackson won in South Carolina, twice. n/t DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #25
... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #26
How can she say she is a progressive Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #27
You won't have to. You will be able to proudly vote for Bernie! cui bono Jan 2016 #36
Proceed abuelita Clinton. azmom Jan 2016 #29
Foolish attack. hay rick Jan 2016 #30
Hillary has been lying for a long, long time Jarqui Jan 2016 #31
I genuinely did not expect this level of dishonesty from her Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #34

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. What a maroon
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie want's to roll together all these great plans and make them into universal health care. Run for your lives people Bernie will forever change life as we know it.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
3. Yeah, so those who don't think she lies can now think she doesn't understand the concept.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jan 2016

Just what we want in a leader.

.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
5. corporations are people too my friend...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jan 2016

and insurance companies of course have your best interest at heart because they are your friend. Pay no attention to the price gouger behind the curtain.

Dretownblues

(253 posts)
32. They sure are
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jan 2016

And when your family member passes because they won't cover basic healthcare needs, that condolence card goes a long way

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
8. It's about time.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jan 2016

And oddly enough, I don't see much pushback from the Hillary supporters on here like when they tried to explain away the sexist attack.

.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
10. Lies and distortions are her only hope
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jan 2016

since she loses on the merits of her positions. Hopefully, the public sees right through it.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
14. The Clintons take the low road when they're desperate
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jan 2016

And it's a single digit race, so they're quite desperate.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
15. Hillary trying to scare people with single payer should lose her some support.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jan 2016

Democrats KNOW it's a much smarter, more efficient, CHEAPER, and more altruistic system. We know it. Even if the Republicans don't.

She will lose support for this, and she deserves to lose support for this.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
17. She is a very bad person
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jan 2016

And I am glad it's coming out now so plainly before people make the mistake of voting for her.

Shame on you Hillary Clinton!

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
19. Last year there was little
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jan 2016

mention of Bernie on most sites I go to. This year they know who he is and what he stands for.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
28. She is indeed. I don't like her. She's dishonest and insincere.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jan 2016

And apparently a liar, too.

A family of liars, it would seem.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
21. truly spoken, cui bono. I was just watching Joan Walsh formerly of salon
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jan 2016

and now with the nation doing the republican thing of walking all over other speakers for Hillary Clinton, blowing the same bullshit. She also let it drop that her DAUGHTER WORKS FOR CLINTON! DOES EVERYONE'S DAUGHTER WORK FOR CLINTON!?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
35. It is somewhat disturbing how many work for her.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jan 2016

The whole system is rigged that way. The bankers/SEC/congress critters have their own revolving door situation. Now you find out all these people related to key media figures or Dem leadership figures, it's all very disheartening. How can the people have any control if we keep electing people who are surrounded by those we are supposed to count on to aid us and give us information?

.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
22. There are several playbooks she got this strategy from
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jan 2016

1. Bill Clinton's
2.Bill Clinton's
3 Bill Clinton's
4.Karl Rove
5.Lee Atwater.
Bill Clinton outlined the "bashing Obama" strategy in 2008. It didn't work then for Hillary and it wont work now.
How can anyone support a candidate that uses lies and deception in a fury of desperation to try and discredit another primary challenger?
This strategy is usually reserved for a Republican candidate and this could very well be Hillary's 47%
Hillary Clinton has made a bad mistake that she may not recover from and as the old saying goes (you've heard this before Bill)
"She's done shit in her nest"

Don Draper

(187 posts)
24. This is the slimy side of the clintons that I don't like
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jan 2016

She is blatantly being dishonest & trying to confuse people to try to score political points, and as a progressive, it feels insulting. Sure, I will vote for whoever the democratic candidate is for president, but for the life of me, I don't understand how any person who considers themselves a progressive would vote for her in the primaries

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
27. How can she say she is a progressive
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jan 2016

and say these horrible things to detract from single payer?

She's making it harder and harder for me to want to hold my nose and vote for her if she wins the nomination.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
31. Hillary has been lying for a long, long time
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jan 2016

Nothing new here.

Published on Nov 9, 2015 POLL: 60% OF AMERICANS THINK HILLARY IS UNTRUSTWORTHY AND DISHONEST



Top first words that come to mind when thinking of Hillary (Quinnipiac)

liar
dishonest
untrustworthy
...
untruthful
deceitful
...
criminal
unethical
...
trouble
deceptive
Benghazi
...
arogant
sneaky
crook
corrupt
...
murder
theif
cheat

there's some good words too but a lot of prominent bad words questioning her honesty.

If being a liar could get one elected, this thing would have been over a long time ago. I don't think anyone would dare run against her!
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»US NEWS: Hillary Clinton ...