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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:48 PM Jan 2016

Would you support Bernie picking Hillary to be his VP if he wins the nomination and the presidency?


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Would you support Bernie picking Hillary to be his VP if he wins the nomination and the presidency? (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 OP
No. We need someone more qualified to be one heartbeat away from the presidency. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #1
Hillary's got some pretty good credentials Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #2
As senator, she voted for the Iraq War Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #7
lol nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #3
Didn't we ask that same question about Hillary eight years ago? rocktivity Jan 2016 #4
Perhaps. I don't remember. Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #6
It wasn't the media who refused to concede. morningfog Jan 2016 #57
Sure did. There was lots of pressure to make her VP Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #9
God no, if I wanted her that close to the Presidency I'd vote for her in the primary... Joe the Revelator Jan 2016 #5
Obama says picking Biden was the best decision in politics he ever made. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #8
Actually that doesn't inherently follow mythology Jan 2016 #34
Guess that backfired huh. Fearless Jan 2016 #10
What backfired? nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #11
ssshhhh :>))))) pangaia Jan 2016 #17
Backfired? OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #20
Your idea of "perfect" is a room draped in flypaper? Scootaloo Jan 2016 #56
Would Hillary support that? Matariki Jan 2016 #12
Good question Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #15
Close to why I voted No Boomer Jan 2016 #18
She has been a disaster on foreign policy. Skwmom Jan 2016 #24
And wants to repeat the same mistake with Syria Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #49
Eight years ago people speculated the same thing SheilaT Jan 2016 #13
I'd like the office of VP to have integrity, so no, she can't be VP. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #14
^This^ GoneOffShore Jan 2016 #41
Interesting, you can still vote in a DU poll when on timeout. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #16
There is an argument for allowing felons to vote. Wilms Jan 2016 #22
Yep. Isn't that interesting? bvf Jan 2016 #32
No, but wouldn't happen anyway. NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #19
I'd like a couple more options there Proserpina Jan 2016 #21
don't care. veeps are irrelevant. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #23
Do you intend your poll to be ridiculous. Considering the primary voting hasn't begun yet? delrem Jan 2016 #25
He can do what he wants, of course. And I will support the ticket regardless. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #26
They will be working together... Mike Nelson Jan 2016 #27
I would be ok with it, but I think the best way to go is a well qualified POC. RDANGELO Jan 2016 #28
No. I also wouldn't support underthematrix Jan 2016 #29
No way in hell would she accept VP CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #30
liz Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #31
Hell NO. 840high Jan 2016 #33
No I wouldn't mythology Jan 2016 #35
oubt enid602 Jan 2016 #36
That would be asking for an assasination attempt from either the banksters betterdemsonly Jan 2016 #37
Sure DJ13 Jan 2016 #38
We need more FDR and LESS Bill CLinton Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #39
FDR interned Japanese Americans Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #40
for god sake. Yes he made some mistakes - that was a huge one Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #42
Don't want her in his cabinet under any position. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Jan 2016 #43
I would support Nancy Pelosi as a VP candidate. She is certainly experienced and effective. Todays_Illusion Jan 2016 #44
He will pick under 55. Hillary will too. yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #54
Like em both but agree. Not that I think either would Hortensis Jan 2016 #63
Barbara Lee or Russ Feingold. Luminous Animal Jan 2016 #45
Yes SteveG Jan 2016 #46
No ! SamKnause Jan 2016 #47
I think he would probably pick someone a bit more centrist than himself. But someone with a little Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #48
No. TSIAS Jan 2016 #50
No Kalidurga Jan 2016 #51
JMO, such a question BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #52
I like the blue bench for veep pics saltpoint Jan 2016 #53
Well, it's somewhat more likely than him naming his childhood sled as VP. Scootaloo Jan 2016 #55
Yes get the red out Jan 2016 #58
No. Just no. n/t Lil Missy Jan 2016 #59
No. Many people want real change. Bringing in such a VP would appear to be for optics. Not GoneFishin Jan 2016 #60
No Karma13612 Jan 2016 #61
No. That would be a deal breaker for me. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #62
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
1. No. We need someone more qualified to be one heartbeat away from the presidency.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jan 2016

Plenty of women (and men, them too) who'd have Bernie's back better than Clinton ever could.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
2. Hillary's got some pretty good credentials
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jan 2016

- Former FLOTUS
- Former US Senator
- Former Secretary of State

Not bad!

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
7. As senator, she voted for the Iraq War
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jan 2016

As Secretary of State, she promoted fracking and TPP

As FLOTUS, she supported DOMA and DADT.

"not bad"? In your opinion, maybe...

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
6. Perhaps. I don't remember.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jan 2016

When Obama was leading the delegate count after super Tuesday, it was pretty much over at that point.

At least I thought it was. But of course the media loved them the horse race!

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
9. Sure did. There was lots of pressure to make her VP
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jan 2016

and there probably will be again (assuming Bernie wins).

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
5. God no, if I wanted her that close to the Presidency I'd vote for her in the primary...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jan 2016

No more dynasties. there are plenty of fish in the sea.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
8. Obama says picking Biden was the best decision in politics he ever made.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jan 2016

Which means not picking Hillary was the best decision in politics he ever made.

Why would we want Bernie to not learn from that?



 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
34. Actually that doesn't inherently follow
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jan 2016

All you can say from Obama's statement is that picking Biden was the best decision. Decisions are made at individual points in time under specific circumstances. The decision wasn't a binary choice of Biden or Clinton for VP. There were many choices and you have no idea where Clinton would have landed on the list. Perhaps she was 2nd, or perhaps she was the last person eligible to be nominated that he would have chosen. The former would not mean that not choosing Clinton is the best choice he ever made, where the latter would.

Unless I suppose you would be willing to agree that means that not picking say Bernie Sanders was the best choice and people should learn from that.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
18. Close to why I voted No
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jan 2016

I think it's somewhat disrespectful to relegate Clinton to the vice presidency, like a consolation prize to the loser.

Personally, I think her foreign policy experience would make her an excellent adjunct to Sanders' administration, in the one area in which he's rather weak. But their campaign battles are just too fraught with tension to resolve them in this way.

I do hope that President Sanders chooses a VP with foreign policy experience. What about another term for Biden!

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
24. She has been a disaster on foreign policy.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jan 2016

After screwing up on Iraq she repeats the same mistake with with Libya.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
49. And wants to repeat the same mistake with Syria
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 02:50 AM
Jan 2016

I would hope Bernie would choose someone more like Cyrus Vance, probably the best Secretary of State in my lifetime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Vance

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
13. Eight years ago people speculated the same thing
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:04 PM
Jan 2016

-- Obama picking Clinton as his VP -- and it was obvious to the most casual observer that it would never happen. For lots of reasons, not the least of which would have been a residue of ill-feeling between the two after the primary season was over.

Plus, it's almost impossible to imagine Hillary being willing to settle for VP, no matter how bitter her second defeat for the nomination is.

And whether any of us support Bernie's VP pick is a totally irrelevant question, because he'll select who he wants, and I sincerely doubt he'll ask any of us for advice.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
22. There is an argument for allowing felons to vote.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jan 2016

Maybe people on time outs get that right retained.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
32. Yep. Isn't that interesting?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jan 2016

It's like a consolation prize. Lets them see their name here without letting them do any real damage.

What I find even more interesting is seeing Clinton supporters voting "no" here.

I think Hillary would simply jump at the chance to sit around, waiting for the boss to sneeze.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
26. He can do what he wants, of course. And I will support the ticket regardless.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jan 2016

But I don't see that happening, in all honesty.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
28. I would be ok with it, but I think the best way to go is a well qualified POC.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jan 2016

That would be the best way to get a big turnout.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
29. No. I also wouldn't support
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jan 2016

HRC selecting Bernie as her VP. I think the POTUS/VPOTUS needs to be a trusting ride or die relationship so it has to be someone of the candidate's choosing that will have their back through thick and thin.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
30. No way in hell would she accept VP
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jan 2016

I can't imagine what she will do after she loses the Democratic nomination (again), but my guess is that it will involve her slippers, a comfy robe, Netflix marathons and a steady stream of Xanax smoothies.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
35. No I wouldn't
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jan 2016

I don't think either Clinton or Sanders should choose the other as the VP nod. I think neither of them would benefit from that choice.

Both are older and would benefit from a younger VP candidate, they are both more or less from the northeast, Clinton has her baggage (some fair, some not) and Sanders being so easily labeled a socialist wouldn't help as a vp nomination when the Republicans are already going to be calling the Democratic candidate a marxist fascist etc etc.

Additionally I think that they don't have complimentary public personas. Sanders can often sound like an angry old guy and Clinton can sometimes sound a little grating. I think both would benefit from somebody who comes across more personable. I think that is one thing Biden did well for Obama who sometimes comes across as too calm and detached where Biden is the proverbial guy you'd like to have a beer with.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
37. That would be asking for an assasination attempt from either the banksters
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jan 2016

or the neocon hawks. These people have done coups before. He needs to pick someone like himself, so they won't gain anything by killing him.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
39. We need more FDR and LESS Bill CLinton
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:00 PM
Jan 2016

We need people in office that support Bernie's agenda. She never will.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
54. He will pick under 55. Hillary will too.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 05:35 AM
Jan 2016

Nancy is going to be 76 in March. Bernie is going to be 75 in September. No way ail that ever be a ticket even if they are great politicians.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
63. Like em both but agree. Not that I think either would
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jan 2016

accept. Nancy especially is a major power house and needed right where she is. Hillary, I'm guessing, would go off to save the world and eventually have statues honoring her contributions raised around the planet. Her potential is enormous wherever she goes, but it'll be White House first, then carterism.

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
46. Yes
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:39 PM
Jan 2016

there are some I would prefer, Sharrod Brown for example, but Hillary would be fine with me. I'm a pragmatic person, and I am to the left of both of them, but I look at it this way, if it's a Sanders/Clinton ticket the whole base would be energized to get out the vote, and if we can get our base out to actually vote, we can win in a landslide with a real possibility of regaining both houses of Congress. Our base is still bigger than theirs, enough larger to counteract a lot of the gerrymandering of the Fascists.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
48. I think he would probably pick someone a bit more centrist than himself. But someone with a little
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 02:37 AM
Jan 2016

more geographic balance. I think he would probably pick a woman, but probably not Hillary. Conventional wisdom would lead someone to think that he would tend toward picking someone outside the geographic area - in this case, the Northeast. Although conventional wisdom would suggest he might pick someone a bit more centrist. I expect that is what would probably happen. Senator Sanders ever since the days of being Mayor Sanders has always show a very strong tendency toward compromise and pragmatism when it comes to the actual mechanics of politics. On aims and principle he can be a bit uncompromising. ON the mechanics of politics he can be quite Machiavellian.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
51. No
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 05:02 AM
Jan 2016

If I was inclined to accept her as VP I would be backing her as a presidential candidate. Plus I trust Bernie to chose someone that is more like oh I dunno MO'M.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
52. JMO, such a question
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 05:16 AM
Jan 2016

is more than a bit premature.

The cascade of DU posts slamming Hillary, her family, the DNC, her endorsers, Dems generally, and just about anyone here who supports HRC do not make me optimistic about either

a) Bernie's LT chances of being the Dem nominee or
b) Hillary's willingness to be on the same ticket with him in any form.

In the case of the very big "If" of Bernie winning the Dem nomination, I do not believe that Clinton would ever accept, even if asked. Women have settled for second place for far too long.

It would have been one thing to accept second place in 2008. The first AA/woman ticket would have been very appealing and historically symbolic. But once again to accept second place with a white male, when a woman is as qualified as HRC is, reeks too much of the same old-same-old that women have been subjected to for centuries.

It would be seen as a sellout by many of us. Definitely by me.






saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
53. I like the blue bench for veep pics
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 05:16 AM
Jan 2016

a hell of a lot better than I like anybody on the red bench.

Not sure either Bernie or Hillary are interested in the veep job. Maybe. But I just have a hunch it would wind up being someone not in the mix for the top spot. I'd like to see either Bernie or Hillary offer a major role for Governor O'Malley in the Cabinet.

I'm not hogwild about Tim Kaine, but I would expect him to be on Hillary's short list. No fan of Evan Bayh either. The veep slot is a tough question this cycle.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
55. Well, it's somewhat more likely than him naming his childhood sled as VP.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 05:39 AM
Jan 2016

I mean, by a slender margin.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
60. No. Many people want real change. Bringing in such a VP would appear to be for optics. Not
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:38 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie's MO in my opinion.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
61. No
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:36 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie and Hillary are like oil and water.

In order to get anything done you would need to constantly being shaking them up or use too much homogenizing agent to keep them from coming apart.

No, no, no, no, no.

Its not good chemistry and it's not good for America, especially after what appears to be a nasty primary season already.

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