As Sanders’ support grows, Dems face an unexpected 2016 scenario

[KamaAina]

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/sanders-support-grows-dems-face-unexpected-2016-scenario

Iowa Democrats will hold their presidential caucuses in 19 days, and it wasn’t long ago that Hillary Clinton appeared well positioned to win with relative ease.

That’s no longer the case. A Quinnipiac poll was released yesterday that found Bernie Sanders leading Clinton in the Hawkeye State, 49% to 44%. Public Policy Polling released results yesterday showing Clinton ahead, 46% to 40%, though the six-point margin is much tighter than her 18-point lead in a PPP poll in December. (A Des Moines Register/Bloomberg poll will be released tomorrow.)...

All of a sudden, it’s dawning on much of the political world that the Vermont independent may win both of the first two nominating contests....

The question no longer seems ridiculous: if Bernie Sanders wins the first two states, should he be considered the frontrunner for the Democratic nomination?

[99Forever]

1. He already IS the frontrunner.

Team Weathervane's internals tell them that, they just won't ever admit it publicly. That's why the ramp up of the sleazy, lying, low rent attacks on our next President, President Sanders.

[winter is coming]

4. Which, ironically, will likely increase his lead.

Please proceed, Secretary Clinton.

[Roland99]

10. +1

[Stryder]

23. See,

that right there is why I only have 300 posts. (Been here a while. I guess I'm kinda lurky.)
I read through the comments and someone most always
reads my mind and responds far better than ever I could.
I only mention it now because, "He already is."
My first thought & the first words of the first reply.

[closeupready]

34. Brilliant insight. I think that's absolutely it.

Thanks.

[CoffeeCat]

2. Clinton was never the frontrunner

She was "inevitable"--a narrative built up by the media. People didn't truly support her. They were just told repeatedly that she was the inevitable nominee.

Bernie has dismantled the inevitability wall.

Now, the country is getting to know him. State by state he will win over Americans who are ready for a transformative, honest President who is not owned by the corporations.

Say hello to a new day in Ametica.

[CorporatistNation]

28. A False Construction Built On Corporatist Propaganda. The MSM Is Bailing Now...

as the once "inevitable" nominee creeps into the barn. She NEVER had the broad support in the first place, baggage to the rafters and who wants someone who is so in the tank with the 1% in every context possible to be the nominee when we have an authentic "Agent of Change" in our grasp?

[Metric System]

3. Let's hope he receives the scrutiny that usually comes with being the front-runner. Better to have

that happen now than in the general.

[winter is coming]

5. LOL. As if the Clinton campaign isn't desperately scrambling for something to attack him on.

If there's anything out there that can be used, it will surface in the next few weeks.

[MoonchildCA]

6. They don't really have to find anything.

Apparently, they can just make stuff up...

[winter is coming]

7. True, but I doubt their powers of invention are inferior to the GOP's. n/t

[2pooped2pop]

16. and they wouldn't be making stuff up if

they actually had anything real. And you know they have been looking hard.

[ViseGrip]

30. I hear repubs are going to use Jeffrey Epstein against the Clinton's.

right now, a girl that was trafficked is singing like a canary, after being held on his private island in his mansion, where Clinton visited 12 times! Along with Prince Andrew who was stupid enough to have his picture taken with her at the mansion. Right before they bathed together...before the 'dance'. Get ready if she's the nominee. And for Bill to go back to the White House. In the end, this is why she'll lose, if she's the nominee. Most everyone has had enough of the Clinton/Bush shenanigans.

[2pooped2pop]

31. I have not heard of this story before

This epstein stuff. I alwsys believed republicans were sitting on something.

[babylonsister]

8. Of course he will, but he's been around

for quite awhile. I think the dirt would have been dug on Bernie, and bet there's none to find.

[NorthCarolina]

9. If there was REAL dirt to be dug, the Clintons would be on that ground with an earthmover.

All they can really do is distort his actual positions on the issues folks care about; which they are currently doing of course. Will these efforts be successful? I don't believe so.

[SammyWinstonJack]

11. LOL! @ on that ground with an earthmover.

So true.

[Rod Beauvex]

29. Comb the desert! COMB THE DESERT!

[Goblinmonger]

33. .....

[raindaddy]

20. Like there's not a large skeleton in Hillary's closet that unlike the republicans Sanders is too....

decent of a guy to touch....

[Gore1FL]

21. I agree. He seems like an honest thoughtful man. I have a hard time believing there is anything.

Nothing wrong with the scrutiny. I've argued the same for Clinton. Good nomination phases make better candidates for the general.

[Geronimoe]

12. Not so fast

I hear Chelsea is deeply concerned about how single payer (medicare for all) would destroy the for-profit healthcare system, that only people with incomes like the Clinton's can afford.

Don't the top 1/10th of !% deserve only the best?

[restorefreedom]

17. won't someone think of the children, er, wealthy?

please, what will they do?

[JRLeft]

13. Hillary is going scorched earth policy on Bernie.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

14. Now all of the Hillary people will stop using the "loyalty to the frontrunner" line.

[Android3.14]

15. The unexpected scenario of an actual win in the general?

Just askin'

[morningfog]

18. I expected it.

[DonCoquixote]

19. sad fact is

if Hillary had come out against the tpp and the KXL from the get go, instead of trying not to offend the big money donors and assorted other friends of DWS, she would be much stronger. If she does nto want to repeat 2008, she needs to fire DWS NOW!

[INdemo]

22. She has no authority to fire DEbbie.

Debbie is earning some big bucks as DNC chair and if she thought or it looked like she was losing her chances for a cabinet position with Hillary its hard telling how fast DWS would throw her under the bus??

[Jack Rabbit]

24. DWS will not throw Mrs Clinton under the bus

If Debbie wants a cabinet position, she shouldn't expect one from Bernie. If she wants a cabinet position, a Clinton presidency is the only way she'll get one. That seems a little less likely tonight than it did a month ago. It looks like lightening is going to strike Hillary Clinton for a second time in eight years.

I don't feel sorry for her because, like eight years ago, rested on the laurels of inevitability and just assumed she would get the adoration of the people for just showing up. It's worked exactly the same way for her as it did then. And all the DLC/Third Way/Democrats for Reagan or whatever they're called now could say to the question we progressives posed, "What's in it for us" was the answer, "A president who better than Bush." Wow. An ambitious goal, that.

A lot of things got old in the last seven years: being called a "retard" by Rahm Emanuel; being told that Larry Summers would be a great Fed Chairman; being told that the trickle-down Bill Clinton promised was just around the corner. All this time seeing mire income inequality, more jobs go overseas, more Wall Street fraud, the curtailing of civil liberties and the continuation of the endless war in Afghanistan. That was already old when I voted for Obama in 2008. I thought I voted to get rid of that crap, only to be mocked by Rahm Emanuel and Jon Cowan, who writes a long position paper that there is no evidence that people like me feel the way we do. That's old, too.

I am a Democrat. You are Democarts. This is our party. Not Rahm Emanuel's; not Debbie Wasserman Schultz'; not Hillary Clinton's' not Larry Summers'; not Jon Cowan's or Al From's; and certainly not the party of banksters like Legs Dimon or Pretty Boy Lloyd. It's our party. We are reasserting the authority of the people.

[INdemo]

27. Thats not what I meant,I know she would not get a mail room job with Bernie

but DWS would be trying to salvage something and with a challenger in the primary her political career will probably be over.

After 45 years some years we will be taking our party back.

With the exception of Jimmy Carter and and his Presidency was sabotaged by the leaders of the trickle down mafia and Wall St

[KamaAina]

26. DWS may be losing her chance at re-election.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027520398

[Recursion]

32. Err... How is she supposed to "fire" DWS? (nt)

[rhett o rick]

35. Firing DWS won't help her. She choose to accept the tainted money from the Wealthy and

now she is beholden to them. That's her game and she can't change now. The People are looking for a change from the current corruption of the Big Money in politics. H. Clinton has made a fortune ($50 million) catering to the billionaires.

[Motown_Johnny]

25. Yes.

If he wins the first two contests he is the front runner.

Especially if his national numbers are higher than, or within the margin of error, of Hillary's.