Chris Hayes is talking about whether Elizabeth Warren should endorse during the Primary ...

[1StrongBlackMan]

The panel is saying she shouldn't, for various reasons.

If I were a Bernie supporter, I would hope that she wouldn't endorse anyone. If she endorses Bernie, it wouldn't help ... the vast majority of Bernie supporters were Warren supporters before Bernie tossed his hat in. But, if she endorsed HRC or Martin O'Malley, that would mean big trouble for Bernie.

[Ed Suspicious]

1. It would be one of the saddest moments of the campaign for me to have her endorse away from Bernie.

[Gman]

2. She signed a letter asking Hillary to run

She'd look pretty foolish and frivolous if she endorsed Sanders. She likely knows this.

[1StrongBlackMan]

3. But she really didn't mean it ...

She was just being polite. Or, so I've been told on DU.

[Gman]

4. Yup

[litlbilly]

5. There is no way she goes for Hillary, not after Hillary voted for the bancruptcy bill. She probably

wont endorse at all till the primaries are over or almost over.

[1StrongBlackMan]

6. Warren will enthusiastically endorse ...

whomever is the Democratic nominee, irrespective of past votes.

[litlbilly]

7. That's why she will wait till the end of the primaries. She burns all her power doing it sooner IMO

[litlbilly]

8. If Hillary gets the nomination, and again I dont think she will, I would not bet on Elizabeth

getting behind Hillary. She would actually have the power at that point do to what she wants. I don't think she would endorse anyone if Hillary is the only choice. IMHO

[1StrongBlackMan]

9. I would bet she will and bet heavily ...

Warren knows what many here can't seem to grasp ... a Democrat in the White house is more important than any republican in the White house. Period.

[litlbilly]

10. I'll take that bet. Wait till you see the polls after Bernie wins the first 2 states, the numbers

will be off the charts. He's only 4 points down nationally atm, wait till after NH, he will be up by at least 10 nationally. If I am wrong, I will gladly say so, but I don't think I am.

[1StrongBlackMan]

11. Okay ... what does that have to do with whether Warren will/will not endorse HRC ...

should she be the Democratic nominee?

Oh yeah ... even giving Bernie Iowa and N.H. (which I don't give him both, but, it is possible), Bernie is unlikely to go to +10 nationally.

[Kentonio]

12. I seem to remember everyone telling us it was unlikely he'd ever break 20%

[1StrongBlackMan]

14. What does THAT have to do with whether Warren will, or will not, endorse HRC ...

should she become the Democratic nominee?

But that said ... Who are these "everyone" that told you that Bernie was unlikely to ever break 20%? That would have been; either, extremely partisan or extremely ill-informed, seeing as approximately 10% of the Democratic Party identifies as "Progressives" and another ~5% identifies as "Libertarian", both of which are drawn to Bernie (and/or O'Malley), and he splits those Democrats that self-identify as "liberal".

What continues to have me perplexed is Bernie's being the favored candidate among those Democrats that self-identify as "conservative". I have my thoughts on that; but, will refrain from expressing them, as there is no way (at this point in the contest) to test them.

[Kentonio]

18. Who? Numerous members of the Clinton support right here at DU just a few months ago.

[1StrongBlackMan]

20. I didn't see the "not 20%" figure ...

I did, however, see 30%.1

[Scootaloo]

30. Here ya go

From what I see, the Sanders campaign is essentially following the path that Paul followed four years ago: a candidate who says what's on his mind, generates large crowds of voters disaffected from their default Party, and develops a solid floor of 15-20% in polling but never breaks a ceiling of 20-25%.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026883414

From one of DU's "deep thinkers" on the Clinton side.

[1StrongBlackMan]

33. Thanks; but, that does not say what the previous poster said he/she was told ...

For review:

I seem to remember everyone telling us it was unlikely he'd ever break 20%.

[litlbilly]

19. Wait and see

[1StrongBlackMan]

21. Wait and see what? ... That EW will endorse, and work to elect, the Democratic nominee ...

which is the main point of my response? Or, whether Bernie cracks a +10 number, nationally?

Either way ... Yes, we will have to wait and see; but, I am quite confident in, both, of my predictions, unless something crazy, and completely unforeseen, happens.

[litlbilly]

22. You seem smart enough to figure it out...

[1StrongBlackMan]

34. And you seem smart enough to answer the question ...

since there are two on the table ... the first being what the sub-thread is about; and, the latter being what you raised.

[litlbilly]

35. Done with you, youre just wasting my time. Ignore

[1StrongBlackMan]

36. Okay ... That's probably for the best. eom

[Agschmid]

15. Yup.

[RiverLover]

13. Big trouble for Bernie? Try big trouble for HER if she endorses Hillary during the Primary

You have to understand something about us (fervent) Warren supporters who now back Bernie because she chose not to run....we love her because of her true progressive stances in both rhetoric AND action. Should she back corporate, wall street, establishment conservative Hillary, it would mean she too is another fake liberal.

It wouldn't hurt Bernie, it would make us all more desperate for him to WIN.

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. Yeah ... that, too. ...

But, as I said, I don't expect her to endorse anyone in the primary ... it makes no sense.

[mmonk]

17. Endorsing Clinton before the primaries

are over would sink her donations from the grassroots who were a big factor in putting her in office.

[1StrongBlackMan]

23. I think the point is moot ...

I don't expect her to endorse anyone until AFTER the Democratic primaries.

[Skwmom]

24. Elizabeth Warren - sitting on the sidelines while the country burns.

That's a progressive we can all be proud of.

[1StrongBlackMan]

26. She is NOT sitting on the sidelines ...

she is doing the hard work of taking on wall street from the Senate ... a post that matches her skill set AND interest.

How quickly "progressives" are to toss their former idols.

[virtualobserver]

29. her refusal to endorse Hillary is a de facto endorsement and Hillary feels the Bern.

EW is under enormous pressure.

The DNC and Team Hillary came down hard on EW and Joe with their recent statements.

Don't be so hard on her. She IS on our side and it takes courage to defy the DNC and Team Hillary.

[Scootaloo]

31. Aw, chill

I actually sort of agree with 1StrongBlackMan, that Warren's going ot sit on her endorsement, at least until some primaries are won.

[NCTraveler]

25. "But, if she endorsed HRC or Martin O'Malley, that would mean big trouble for Bernie."

I can't imagine the venom that would be spewed at yet another progressive if she were to endorse Clinton or O'Malley.

[1StrongBlackMan]

27. It would be epic! eom.

[NCTraveler]

28. I wish it were funny.

I didn't see the post right above mine when I posted my original. Couldn't have worked out any better.

[Gothmog]

32. I agree. A Warren endorsement of Clinton would hurt Sanders

[whatchamacallit]

37. This is a big deal to the authoritarian mind

to freethinkers, not so much.

[1StrongBlackMan]

38. Thank you for your insightful remark ... Oh, and the Kick. eom