Sanders goes there,he compares Hillary to Cheney.

[Dawson Leery]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-iraq-war

"Experience is important. Dick Cheney had a lot of experience. A whole lot of people have experience but do not necessarily have the right judgment. I think I have the right judgment to conduct sensible foreign policy."

This is low. It tells me about who Bernie is.

[virtualobserver]

1. it is the truth and it tells us about who Hillary is...she followed Cheney down the Iraq rabbit hole

I'm sorry if the truth hurts.

[agracie]

33. Yep.

[libdem4life]

2. So, it's untrue? or just inconvenient. He should have been on her about her hawkish

stances and votes a long time ago. It's past time...and don't go all NRA...remember D-...their ratings not ours.

[virtualobserver]

5. D- and he is Mr. NRA....

but Bernie has a 100% rating and PP goes with Hillary...rated at 89%

They sound like they are playing Establishment over rating to me.

[Alfresco]

3. Bernie disappoints again.

[The Wielding Truth]

12. His point is judgment. Of course she is better than Cheney, but she voted to take us into Iraq.

How could she bought there lies? Or maybe why did she buy their lies?

[Segami]

4. LOL!...fail!

Thats it?........ok, once again..

[AZ Mike]

6. "Compares Hillary to Cheney"?

Lol.

I think you're reading way too far into this.

The point is judgment - and Bernie has that in spades over Hillary.

She voted for the Iraq War on the same information that Bernie had and voted against it.

So, Cheney is a contrast to Hillary, not a comparison.

Bernie is absolutely right in his comments.

[earthside]

7. But Sanders is correct.

It is not "low" ... it is just hard for some Hillarians to accept.

Mrs. Senator Clinton voted to go to war against Iraq.
She went along with Bush and Cheney.
She displayed poor judgement.

I'll take the inexperience of Barack Obama or even Bill Clinton on foreign policy any day over the experience of Cheney, Rumsfeld, McCain, etc.

We can't afford that kind of poor judgment anymore.

[leftupnorth]

8. Where is my tiny violin?

I drove all the way from northern Michigan to Washington DC twice to protest the war in Iraq.

I remember when Clinton voted for the AUMF. It was at that moment that I began to realize the neoliberal alliance across party lines is all too real.

[KingFlorez]

9. Who really cares what he says?

Something that silly isn't even worth a response.

[The Wielding Truth]

16. To this man words have meaning. When we went to war with Iraq did you agree with Cheney?

Sanders must compare her judgment on this to Cheney. She is really smarter than Cheney yet she let him take us there. Why? That action is not what I want in our next President. I can only hope that when faced with overwhelming evidence and common logic, her judgment would not let her give her consent to another disastrous action.

Again I must say that if Senders does not get the nomination. I know that she is the next best candidate.

Citizen's United may have already decided that next President, but I will rally with the person who has been fighting against it and fighting for my middle class rights for so long that I trust him.

[MuseRider]

10. Nah, come on now.

He is right but he never said Hillary was like Cheney. It is just a really good analogy? He is comparing two people with experience but not saying Hillary is LIKE Cheney. The meaning being that experience is not a good thing alone. That is why he went on about his judgment. That is where he compares himself to Hillary. Cheney was an example but then you already knew all this didn't you.

I am sure it hurts but it isn't right to misconstrue the meaning here.

[Ferd Berfel]

23. True - he never said A=B. Once Again Bernies is just stating the facts

nothing but the facts ma'am

Feelin the Bern?

[beam me up scottie]

28. Well said, MuseRider.

There is a difference and we're all intelligent enough to see it.

[tk2kewl]

11. I think he is trying to get under her skin...

she should be careful about knee jerk reactions

Bernie does not go off half cocked

[99th_Monkey]

13. How dare Sanders point out that all "foreign policy experience" is not equal

and that it really matters what that "experience" tells us about a candidate's foreign policy judgement.

Bernie "should know better" than to tell the truth about such things.

[valerief]

14. Yeah, Bernie's the guy with the judgment. nt

[Punkingal]

15. Well, if the shoe fits......

[lunamagica]

17. Do these people expect Hillary supporters to rally after Sanders (If he gets the nom)?

Because it sure looks like they are trying to alienate us.

[TM99]

29. Why should we care?

Do y'all Clinton supporters?

[cali]

18. No. He is taking down a the vast experience argument

That her campaign and supporters put forth

[Punkingal]

19. Having McCaskill insinuate Bernie is a communist was pretty low IMO.

[Broward]

20. Well, who's Hillary?

At the very least, she is someone that will support disastrous foreign policy decisions for a perceived personal political benefit.

[aikoaiko]

21. Not really if you go beyond the sound bite. The context was bigger than Hillary.

[Skwmom]

22. She's as incompetent as Cheney on foreign policy. With all of their experience

they voted for the BIGGEST foreign policy blunder in the history of our nation!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. He's right to.

[JudyM]

25. Have to say I would like a more detailed explanation of why she voted for the war.

my greatest concern is not that she made a mistake in believing the "facts" of WMD, etc that were presented to congress as being "the truth", but whether she had real reservations and cast her vote in favor of war due to political expediency or, worse, an eye toward a future presidential run in which she knew she had to appear more hawkish to have credibility, as a democratic woman.

Honestly would like to know the real story.

[Kalidurga]

26. Sounds legit

[m-lekktor]

27. I always tell people she has the same foreign policy stance as Dick Cheney!

[pinebox]

30. Well her record is in question

Well when you vote for Iraq, your foundation receives money from Saudi Arabia for arms sales and you have a hand in a Honduras coup, what do you expect?

There's a LOT out there and this is a very small sample. This is her liability & it's what we've been saying for ages. Now it's coming to fruition. And these are LIBERAL sources.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/opinion/sunday/are-neocons-getting-ready-to-ally-with-hillary-clinton.html
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/26/is_hillary_clinton_a_neoconservative_hawk_what_iraq_and_libya_decisions_tell_us_about_her_foreign_policy/
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/04/23/is-hillary-clinton-a-neocon-lite-2/
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/hillary-clinton-neoconservative-hawk-what-iraq-and-libya-decisions-tell-us-about
http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-juggernaut-courts-wall-street-and-neocons/

[mythology]

31. At best that is a real stretch

He's saying that some experience isn't good.

[LittleBlue]

32. Good. I've been waiting for him to finally question her competence.

Dick Cheney duped her into voting for the IWR. Anyone who was fooled by that man doesn't possess the intelligence or wisdom to run the country, and yes that includes Kerry.

[tarheelsunc]

34. What happened to not attacking and not going negative?

Bernie repeatedly saying he wouldn't attack is starting to look pretty "disingenuous".

[John Poet]

35. On foreign policy, she's a NEO-CON like Cheney,

so what's the beef?


Bernie didn't actually come out and say it,
he just pointed out that even "experienced" people
don't always do the right thing,
so here it is:

HILLARY CLINTON IS A NEO-CON LIKE DICK CHENEY!

[morningfog]

36. It's a fair comparison, but I think she's more like Rove.

She and her supporters won't shut up about her being "the most qualified person in the world ever to run" blah blah blah. It's easily refuted: Cheney was "qualified" too.

It isn't a comment on her politics or policies, so save the poutrage.

I think the better comparison is to Karl Rove. She is just a nasty, vengeful, manipulative, dishonest and driven as him.

[DFW]

37. I think Bernie just went a bit too far on that one. No big deal

Hillary has made some serious gaffes, too. It happens during an election campaign. At least this one, while low, is not one Republicans are likely to steal

[Metric System]

38. This thread is a perfect example of how Bernie supporters only care about "going negative" when

the Clinton campaign is supposedly doing so. Everything hurled at Hillary is fair game because in their minds she's simply the worst human being alive.

[RedCappedBandit]

39. Reality is low. Yup. nt

[Autumn]

40. Really??? Must be an election coming up.