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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:29 PM Jan 2016

Sanders' Birmingham Rally throws Homeless out in the cold on coldest night of winter

The title of this post is a bit misleading, but it got your attention, right? While technically correct, there is more to the story as you will see when you read the articles linked below which appeared in the Birmingham News about Bernies' visit and rally here in Birmingham.

The first article appeared above fold on the front page on the paper copy of the newspaper and was entitled: Homeless Get Cold Shoulder: Bernie Sanders rally, SCLC banquet close Boutwell Auditorium as warming station on coldest night of winter

The second article appeared on Page 7 of the paper edition.

On bitterly cold night, Birmingham's homeless warming station used for Sanders rally

Bernie Sanders in Birmingham: Alabamians should 'stop voting against your best interest

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Sanders' Birmingham Rally throws Homeless out in the cold on coldest night of winter (Original Post) CajunBlazer Jan 2016 OP
*sniff* beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #1
Reeks of it. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #2
BREAKING: BERNIE HATES HOMELESS PEEPLES!!1! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #8
No the op is not sympathetic to Bernie. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #13
Thanks, bmus. senz Jan 2016 #17
People should watch what they post in these threads. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #20
You're right. senz Jan 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author senz Jan 2016 #36
Just having a bit of fun CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #9
Sure you are. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #10
Keeping a list are you? I'm honored CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #21
No list, just a good memory. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #23
By the time I figured out what was happening there was like a dozen replies CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #32
I didn't see the post in question mythology Jan 2016 #55
It was an anti-Semitic piece from a neo-Nazi site about a Jewish candidate. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #56
Always has, always will notadmblnd Jan 2016 #31
Someone forgot to tell the homeless in Burlington, Vermont: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #35
Well it't obvious those people are being coerced. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #42
We Vermontsters love our Bernie! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #45
Yeah, well I can see why you all are so fond of him. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #47
Wow, thank you! senz Jan 2016 #44
"He remembered my name after 25 years"..."I like him"..."I think he's gonna win..." sorechasm Jan 2016 #59
... senz Jan 2016 #40
It's a "What died inside?" fart smell. nt artislife Jan 2016 #25
LOL!. Yep. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #28
Desperation? Tommy2Tone Jan 2016 #50
Is it hard moving goal posts? Fawke Em Jan 2016 #52
True, but IA and NH tend to shape the race. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #61
Obviously, Hillary cannot run on the issues. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #4
These events are planned months in advance... John Poet Jan 2016 #5
We usually have cold nights like that maybe 4 or 5 times a year (n/t) CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #11
I thought they were chased out of the building into a Soylent Green food processing truck! TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #6
Feel the... liberal N proud Jan 2016 #7
ROFLMAO!!! stevenleser Jan 2016 #54
How very sensitive of you. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #62
Just in case this isn't clear enough: THE RALLY WAS OVER BY 8:42 PM. senz Jan 2016 #12
This is old it was already posted and discussed a few days back! nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #14
And in the meantime, there was nothing to keep them from attending the rally to stay warm. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #15
But if they did that Mnpaul Jan 2016 #18
Another good point, thanks. senz Jan 2016 #19
I thought I read about this . . . Mike__M Jan 2016 #34
lol -- another good one senz Jan 2016 #46
LMAO! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #49
Most overnight warming centers that I'm familiar with open Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #30
Do they let them stay overnight or do they only let them get warm? notadmblnd Jan 2016 #38
They set up cots and have blankets available. senz Jan 2016 #53
Funny (not ha-ha) how suddenly Bernie can't seem to do anything right. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #16
Hey, don't be doing this. senz Jan 2016 #22
Birmingham has nothing other than that auditorium that can be used? hootinholler Jan 2016 #24
BERNIE SUPPORTERS: This OP is intentional FLAME BAIT. Don't give it to them. senz Jan 2016 #27
Gee, you guys are too serious - lighten up CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #29
Yeah, we ARE serious. We, like our candidate, care about the American people. senz Jan 2016 #33
And you seem to be angry like Bernie too CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #37
If you're not angry, you're not paying attention. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #57
Yea, being a rich progressive beats being a poor conservative or a... CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #58
You should know better. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #60
"you have to have a little fun sometimes", like smearing a candidate in your OP title? peacebird Jan 2016 #41
Be sure to flush twice. bvf Jan 2016 #39
Not sure that 2 flushes are sufficient to clear this load...... peacebird Jan 2016 #43
IGNORED - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #48
And I'm SO sure they did it on purpose. Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #51
Oh, the irony, it's delicious comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #63
Post crap and then run your protected group and brag about it. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #64

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
3. BREAKING: BERNIE HATES HOMELESS PEEPLES!!1!
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jan 2016

I think the op forgot to check the other forums, this was the poutrage du jour days ago.

Reminded me of this thread:

Aren't you tired of the character assassination against Bernie?

Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #3)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. No the op is not sympathetic to Bernie.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:48 PM
Jan 2016

He posted a hit piece from a racist website about Bernie a few weeks ago.

And check his journal, he's bragging about baiting us.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
17. Thanks, bmus.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jan 2016

I thought it was just an amazing level of clumsiness and so threw in a loud disclaimer downthread.

I am so glad that you, with your sharp eyes and good memory, are here.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
20. People should watch what they post in these threads.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jan 2016

The alerts start coming in as soon as we respond.

Hi senz!


 

senz

(11,945 posts)
26. You're right.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jan 2016

When I realized what they did, I was tempted to box somebody's ears in with my little arthritic hands (ouch.) So glad I didn't put it into explicit words.

This stuff is so sickening. Just shows what they are and who they represent.



Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #20)

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
9. Just having a bit of fun
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jan 2016

Due to money problems the Birmingham has cut back to putting out their printed addition only three days a week - Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays. I was just reading the latest printed addition tonight. Sounds like the Bernie people weren't even aware of the SNAFU, but local columnist had a field day. Here is an example:

#FreezerBern: Neglect of Birmingham's homeless exposes the false promise of Bernie Sanders

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
10. Sure you are.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jan 2016

I've read your other ops, including the one where you linked to Tomatobubble - a website owned by a Holocaust denier in order to smear Bernie.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
21. Keeping a list are you? I'm honored
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jan 2016

Actually I pulled that one article and several others out of a number of articles that came up on Google showing that Bernie had many vulnerabilities that the Koch brothers could attack if he wins the nomination.

I was lazy and didn't read that article thoroughly or note it's origin. Had I done my proper due diligence I would have posted another article instead of that one. The mistake that I made was not following one of my rules when in internet discussion. Never allow the other side an opportunity to complain about fringe issues so they can avoid your main point.


beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
23. No list, just a good memory.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jan 2016

And you could have edited your op after you found out but you chose not to.

That says it all really.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
32. By the time I figured out what was happening there was like a dozen replies
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jan 2016

It the time I figured that it would have looked like I was trying to make those who replied look silly and surely someone would have looked at the edit and called me out on it. So I just left it alone. Live and learn.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
55. I didn't see the post in question
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jan 2016

but using a Holocaust denier as a source to attack a candidate isn't a fringe issue. Holocaust deniers are pretty much by definition idiots and their opinions should be given roughly speaking no consideration.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
56. It was an anti-Semitic piece from a neo-Nazi site about a Jewish candidate.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jan 2016

This is a direct quote from the article:

Sanders, like almost every other Big Jew in America, is also a rabid Russia basher*












*note to jury: this is a quote from the article, not my words

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
31. Always has, always will
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jan 2016

He's successfully hidden this awful trait for over 40 years only pretending to be a concerned compassionate human being that tries his best to look out for his fellow man. It is only now, when he decides to run for the Democratic nomination for President of these United States- that he has decided to throw of his mask and show the world what a piece of shit human being he really is.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
44. Wow, thank you!
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:22 PM
Jan 2016

MY BFF (and fellow Bernie supporter) has worked with the homeless on a volunteer basis for ages. I'll send him this video.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
59. "He remembered my name after 25 years"..."I like him"..."I think he's gonna win..."
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jan 2016

How do you distrust people who literally (unfortunately) have nothing to hide?

They are lovely. I hope they are warm and well-fed this winter.

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
50. Desperation?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jan 2016

New polls in today show Hillary up 36 in Florida and 33 in North Carolina.

Desperation is thinking IA and NH are the only primaries.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
52. Is it hard moving goal posts?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:45 PM
Jan 2016

Because it's become very easy to still kick the ball through them as we get in field goal range.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
61. True, but IA and NH tend to shape the race.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 01:08 AM
Jan 2016

If the anointed one loses both, her shroud of invincibility will disintegrate and it will become a real race.

That doesn't mean Bernie will win just because of the first two contests. It does mean that he has a real shot if he does win them both.



 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
5. These events are planned months in advance...
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jan 2016

and Alabama is usually warmer than that, even in winter, isn't it?


"I knew last week that the city used the warming station upstairs, but not downstairs. We had no idea that the warming station would be closed. We were downstairs, they would be upstairs. That's what we knew," said Kelvin Datcher, state director for the Sanders campaign.

"There was never any conversation about the warming station. Not only did the senator not know, I didn't even know. They were relying on me to relay information up the chain. Had that been a concern, we absolutely would've acted on it," Datcher said.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
11. We usually have cold nights like that maybe 4 or 5 times a year (n/t)
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jan 2016

Probably less now due to global warming.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
12. Just in case this isn't clear enough: THE RALLY WAS OVER BY 8:42 PM.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jan 2016

Plenty of time to set up for the homeless to stay overnight.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
18. But if they did that
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jan 2016

the OP would probably be complaining that Bernie is using homeless people to inflate his rally attendance.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
19. Another good point, thanks.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jan 2016

Plus, how was Bernie to know about it?

But now I understand how utterly sucky this OP is.

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
34. I thought I read about this . . .
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:14 PM
Jan 2016

Didn't they have them line up so the candidate could personally shove each one out into the cold, laughing and stealing their coats as he did it?

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
38. Do they let them stay overnight or do they only let them get warm?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jan 2016

Our homeless shelter here- people are actually given beds to sleep on.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
53. They set up cots and have blankets available.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:54 PM
Jan 2016

But I don't live there there and don't know the details of how it operates. It's not called a shelter, just a warming center.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
16. Funny (not ha-ha) how suddenly Bernie can't seem to do anything right.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jan 2016

Every word and phrase that comes out of his mouth is an "Eeek" gotcha moment.

Good thing most Bernie supporters are hip to how completely owned the corporate
media is by TPTB Billionaire class.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
22. Hey, don't be doing this.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jan 2016

It's not funny and doesn't do a damn thing to make your candidate look good.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
24. Birmingham has nothing other than that auditorium that can be used?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jan 2016

This smells of a set up to make the SCLC and Bernie look like they care not for the homeless.

The campaign was clearly sandbagged. Apparently the upstairs was still available, plus Bernie's event didn't last all night. I think it could have opened.

"I knew last week that the city used the warming station upstairs, but not downstairs. We had no idea that the warming station would be closed. We were downstairs, they would be upstairs. That's what we knew," said Kelvin Datcher, state director for the Sanders campaign.

"There was never any conversation about the warming station. Not only did the senator not know, I didn't even know. They were relying on me to relay information up the chain. Had that been a concern, we absolutely would've acted on it," Datcher said.



CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
29. Gee, you guys are too serious - lighten up
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jan 2016

It's not like I didn't post the link that completely exonerated the Sanders folks.

You have to have a little fun sometimes.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
33. Yeah, we ARE serious. We, like our candidate, care about the American people.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:14 PM
Jan 2016

Much is at stake in this contest.

Open your eyes.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
37. And you seem to be angry like Bernie too
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jan 2016

But at lease Bernie finds things to laugh about every once and while. Wards of heart attacks you know.

But you are right, a candidate like Bernie won't come around again in your lifetime and you may not be happy with the results this time around. All the more reason to take the time to enjoy yourself a little now. The future may be sad and hopeless.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
57. If you're not angry, you're not paying attention.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jan 2016

In fact, those who aren't angry are either rich or brainwashed.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
60. You should know better.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:38 PM
Jan 2016

You live in an area that many - including a lot of DINOs - wanted to see just DIE.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
41. "you have to have a little fun sometimes", like smearing a candidate in your OP title?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jan 2016

Then in a minor follow on comment posting a link that totally exonerates him?
How cute... How 'funny'....

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