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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:43 PM Jan 2016

Why Wall Street Gives Millions to Hillary (As a Former Goldman Sachs Banker,

I Say Bernie Has It Right)

Raghuram Rajan, now the head of India's central bank, once wrote an academic paper blaming the financial crisis on poor people. Just yesterday, Bill Clinton placed blame for the crisis on our government. Anyone who has seen the Oscar-winning documentary Inside Job knows full well that the crisis was caused by our banks.

Banks lent trillions of dollars to home buyers on too loose of terms knowing that they could turn the resulting junk mortgages into AAA securities through the alchemy of CDOs and securitization and thus generate hundreds of billions of profit and leave the resulting mortgage mess to their investing clients.

But the financial crisis is behind us, right? Why would Wall Street shower Hillary Clinton with millions of dollars in speaking fees and tens of millions in campaign contributions?

I think it is an insurance policy. Wall Street wants a friend in the White House to protect the status quo, and if they can't get a Republican elected, Hillary is the next best thing. I think they need a friend in government because the industry could not survive an investigation into how they actually make their profits.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-r-talbott/why-wall-street-gives-mil_b_9049992.html
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Why Wall Street Gives Millions to Hillary (As a Former Goldman Sachs Banker, (Original Post) Katashi_itto Jan 2016 OP
Wall street has a friend in Hillary cali Jan 2016 #1
I wonder if her speaking events opened with a song like this Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #3
I think you're right. daleanime Jan 2016 #2
I respect Clinton for coning the banksters into helping finance her run against the GOPers. Hoyt Jan 2016 #4
Assuming she actually tells them NO when it counts. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #5
Her banking reform plan is stronger than Sanders'. Hoyt Jan 2016 #7
Yes, the plan written by bankers is totally going to hurt them more. jeff47 Jan 2016 #13
if by stronger green917 Jan 2016 #40
You seriously believe that? Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #6
I do. FDR was not anti-bank, but he controlled them tightly. Hoyt Jan 2016 #9
Hillary is no FDR. Not in your wildest dreams....well maybe yours. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #10
Since she has not been inaugurated yet, you don't know. Look at FDR before he was inaugurated. Hoyt Jan 2016 #18
What are you smoking? daybranch Jan 2016 #17
Some mighty good economists think her plan reaches further than Sanders'. I guess they are persona Hoyt Jan 2016 #19
Wow. Phlem Jan 2016 #25
BS is apt. Hoyt Jan 2016 #26
yep. You would now. Phlem Jan 2016 #27
You're part right, she is conning someone Lokijohn Jan 2016 #30
Wall Street has friends on both sides of the aisle. Who do you think gave millions to Obama? n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #8
Naww. They're investing in her because they such good friends of the workers. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #11
k&r nt antigop Jan 2016 #12
Banksters need a friend, because it's gonna happen all over again Proserpina Jan 2016 #14
The banks are even bigger now. azmom Jan 2016 #20
You are correct Proserpina Jan 2016 #21
They are afraid Pres Bernie will tax stock trades. B Calm Jan 2016 #15
Anyone is nuts who doesn't think Wall St. gives money w/o access and favoritism in policies. EndElectoral Jan 2016 #16
Just an aside question: In paragraph 2 you give the reason jwirr Jan 2016 #22
KAAAAAAAAABOOOOOOOM! Indepatriot Jan 2016 #23
Anyone that even thinks about it there will be blocked yesterday. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #24
Hillary changes tactics. MynameisBlarney Jan 2016 #28
"could not survive an investigation " wordpix Jan 2016 #29
We all get it - Sanders is running an exclusionary campaign Politicub Jan 2016 #31
Did or did not Wall Street shower Hillary Clinton with millions of dollars in speaking fees Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #32
A lot of people invited her to speak -- she's an usually talented speaker Politicub Jan 2016 #33
For a fee of $275,000, she had agreed to appear before the clients of GoldenTree Asset Management Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #34
I'm not going to play your inqusition game Politicub Jan 2016 #36
Awww can't answer the question...which answers the question. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #37
This is like second grade on the playground Politicub Jan 2016 #38
Well answer the question. Simple. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #39
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #35
I want to see the transcripts of her speeches. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #41
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. I respect Clinton for coning the banksters into helping finance her run against the GOPers.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jan 2016

Banksters, corporations, unions, schools, professional associations, etc., usually give something to all candidates with a chance to win. Wish there were real restrictions on what they can give -- if anything -- but there is not. If we want to beat the GOPers, we'll need funding. Might as well take some from them as long as we still tell them NO when it counts.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
5. Assuming she actually tells them NO when it counts.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jan 2016

Her record doesn't indicate that she will act against her $pon$or$.

green917

(442 posts)
40. if by stronger
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:48 PM
Jan 2016

You mean less inclined to actually curtail the types of activities that cause the near collapse in 2008 then, sure it's better...better for the banks.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. Since she has not been inaugurated yet, you don't know. Look at FDR before he was inaugurated.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jan 2016

You will be surprised. Heck, he won the nomination in a brokered convention.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
17. What are you smoking?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jan 2016

she is already stating she will serve their interests in her half measures. They seem awfully pleased with her past performance as a senator and SOS.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Some mighty good economists think her plan reaches further than Sanders'. I guess they are persona
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jan 2016

non grata here now.

Lokijohn

(46 posts)
30. You're part right, she is conning someone
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jan 2016

but I don't think its that group you mentioned

Go Bernie!

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
11. Naww. They're investing in her because they such good friends of the workers.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jan 2016

Or, like most investors, they expect a return on their investments.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
14. Banksters need a friend, because it's gonna happen all over again
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jan 2016

and they want another bailout when it does, baby!

Since nothing has been changed in the way Wall Street operates (as Bernie says, their business model is fraud) and little to no regulation has been imposed or enforced, we are sitting chained to another financial timebomb.

We have three possible futures, as I see it.

1) The bomb goes off before the Convention, and Hillary's campaign spontaneously combusts.

2) The bomb goes off after Bernie is nominated, and his coat-tails drag in the largest Democratic Progressive majority either the House or the Senate has ever seen since FDR.

3) The bomb goes off after Bernie enters the White House, and we have a chance to do the job right and in a timely fashion. A lot of bankers leave town and the borders.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
21. You are correct
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jan 2016

but there are fewer of them. So it's probably a wash as far as time and effort and pain.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
22. Just an aside question: In paragraph 2 you give the reason
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jan 2016

why the bankers did this - does this also apply to credit cards?

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
23. KAAAAAAAAABOOOOOOOM!
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jan 2016

That's the whole thing, right there in print for those clueless enough to have not figured this out yet. Wonder it they'll post this in the Hillary Group?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
29. "could not survive an investigation "
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jan 2016

Not only a bankster investigation but also a health insurance /provider /big pharma/fraudulent billing investigation is needed. I trust Bernie to push the doj to investigate these criminal cabals and all the conspiracies involved including tax havens and "inversions "

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
31. We all get it - Sanders is running an exclusionary campaign
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jan 2016

First, the article is written around a logical fallacy -- since Bill Clinton did X, then Y must be true because she's married to Bill. But politics is full of those, so no harm no foul there.

In addition to "Wall Street," Hillary's donors include people from every walk of life. Some of which are shit-throwing howler monkeys.

But the thing is, I see many more poop flingers in Bernie's column. His supporters have turned his campaign into Grover Norquist-eqsue loyalty oath fever dream. If you don't tow the party line, you get thrown to the curb. I don't see that Happening with most of Hillary's supporters. Like the candidate herself, we're pragmatists who accept that there is no utopia. It takes grit and dermination to get things done. And yes, sometimes compromise. Even if the dems win the executive and legislative branches of government, compromise will still be required. Look up the Stupak amendment and how it came close to derailing Obamacare. It took a compromise position to get the bill passed. And I'm so glad it did get passed.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
32. Did or did not Wall Street shower Hillary Clinton with millions of dollars in speaking fees
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jan 2016

and tens of millions in campaign contributions?

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
33. A lot of people invited her to speak -- she's an usually talented speaker
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jan 2016

And gets people to listen.

I guess she should ignore people you don't like because they're not really people -- they're ambiguous Wall Street.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
34. For a fee of $275,000, she had agreed to appear before the clients of GoldenTree Asset Management
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:55 PM
Jan 2016

, the capstone of a lucrative speechmaking sprint through Wall Street that earned her more than $2 million in less than seven months.

So the Question which you tired to sidestep is:

"Did or did not Wall Street shower Hillary Clinton with millions of dollars in speaking fees and tens of millions in campaign contributions?"

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
36. I'm not going to play your inqusition game
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:02 PM
Jan 2016

How medieval - "Did or did not"

Maybe you should try water boarding me to get the answer you want.

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