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angrychair

(8,736 posts)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:56 PM Jan 2016

How you win matters

As the Democratic primary race heats up, a certain candidate is a lot more nervous than others. The rhetoric of Clinton, staff and surrogates has become far more sharp and caustic lately.
The problem is that this is not a normal election cycle and the normal playbook does not apply.
You need look no farther than the gOP party to see proof positive that this is not a normal election year.

The more Clinton attempts to attack Sanders, uses her surrogates to question his character, his health or his commitment, the stronger she makes Sanders. The more she does that the more she burns bridges that may be impossible to rebuild.

At this point it is likely a "no win" situation for her. The lengths she will have to go to in order to attempt to regain momentum will damage the Democratic party ( personal image, GOTV and Party appeal) and her appeal to left-leaning independents.
Given the double-wammy of the loss of independents and Democratic party voter apathy brought on by her harsh efforts to defeat Sanders, the likelihood of a teapublican X being president is a lot more possible than people, even I, would have thought a month ago.

For the whole first part of the primary cycle I heard people say it was about electability. They were right. It is. It may not be the outcome they wanted but it doesn't change the mechanics of this primary or the coming general election.

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How you win matters (Original Post) angrychair Jan 2016 OP
I'm really not sure Shadowflash Jan 2016 #1
I completely agree SheenaR Jan 2016 #3
Agreed. Shadowflash Jan 2016 #4
They might be WANTING to split the party in to two. It's a possibility. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #9
She should just switch sides already. Maybe she could bring some moderation back to the GOP tk2kewl Jan 2016 #6
Yup. Shadowflash Jan 2016 #8
It matters to me. K&R nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #2
Well said, angrychair. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #5
K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #7
I'm more concerned with whose money finances the win. Orsino Jan 2016 #10

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
1. I'm really not sure
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jan 2016

How someone, in a Democratic primary, who comes out as saying that not everybody deserves healthcare or education, as a basic right, really would expect to win.

I thought Democrats were FOR these things. I'm wrong, I guess.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
3. I completely agree
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jan 2016

And I wonder what the party will look like after this cycle and beyond. It's as if the party is splintering into two ideologies. But as soon as I suggest that in most places, my loyalty to the party gets questioned. If what they (HRC) are selling is what our party stands for, then I guess I don't know where there is a place for people like me further to the left.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
9. They might be WANTING to split the party in to two. It's a possibility.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jan 2016

In Canada, the Conservative Party had a majority government with only 38% of the vote because the left is split in to multiple parties.

We should use this energy that Bernie has built to reform the Democratic Party.

Corporate interests would LOVE to split up the Democratic Party in to two parties. Of this, I have very little doubt. They wouldn't even have to steal as many elections this way.

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