2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIF Hillary loses to Bernie
what would she likely do during and after the general election?
Seems like so many public service possibilities are out there.
Take James Earl Carter and his work with Habitat for Humanity.
would Madame Secretary consider working with Haitian orphans or
perhaps refugee issues?
Its not too soon to start looking at the upsides here, is it?
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)Something involving that great golden revolving door of Govt/Wall St/Lobbyists/PR.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)including outright retirement if thats what she wants.
time with the grandkids, etc.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)This thing has hardly gotten started and the FATIGUE is FULL BLOWN! I am not kidding... You do not have to even look for it.
Hillary WILL lose the General Election if by some turn of "pre engineered" variables she is the nominee.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)ejbr
(5,856 posts)Making definitive statements prior to them happening makes it somewhat ironic.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)she could not, would not.
would she do?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)MeNMyVolt
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(30,058 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)And it won't return a Blue house and senate, either. Which is probably the point.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)If Bernie wins, it will be because of massive turnout. And these people will come out again in November. And they would vote Democrat in Senate/House races. Nobody will convince me a Sanders nomination wouldn't help bring both houses to our side.
aikoaiko
(34,171 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)that she might join. The one that is doing incredible work all over the world. The one that you'd know might know about if you had researched Hillary a little bit.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)if theyre tiny now, imagine their stature after a loss to a Democratic Socialist?
I wonder how that would be impacted?
jinxed you owe me a coke
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Not Trump #Yuge, but who could be?
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)But that's not what old Red is looking for.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)and get all rational. I'm not too good and the anti-whoever bandwagon stuff.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Maybe you've researched it.
reddread
(6,896 posts)Gothmog
(145,313 posts)And Sanders is still not polling well with African American or Latino voters and so maybe he needs to change what he is doing http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/poll-sanders-gains-stop-short-of-minorities.html#
Team Sanders is certainly focused on the problem, with a variety of campaign efforts focused on minority voters in the works. The talking points they are putting out there, however, are less than convincing, as I learned as a guest on the public radio show "To the Point" yesterday, when I heard a Sanders supporter argue that an Iowa win would greatly boost Bernie's African-American support just like it did for Obama in South Carolina in 2008. The idea that Sanders's potential to win the black vote in South Carolina is analogous to that of the first African-American president does not pass the laugh test. Still, any early-state win for Sanders, even in exceptionally honkified Iowa and New Hampshire, will likely create some sort of generalized bounce. The question is how high, and how loyal minority voters prove to be to Hillary Clinton, her husband, and her implicit ally Barack Obama. It's worth remembering that she defeated Barack Obama handily among Latinos in 2008, and that Bill Clinton enjoyed robust support in both communities.
Monmouth University has a new national poll out that casts some fascinating, if very preliminary, light on this subject. Compared to its poll in December, Monmouth shows Sanders making pretty big gains: Clinton was up 59-to-26 last month, and only 52-to-37 now. But among black and Latino voters, Clinton has actually expanded her lead from 61-to-18 to 71-to-21. In other words, a legitimate "Sanders surge" nationally has coincided with a deterioration of his standing with the voters he will most need for a breakthrough after the first two contests of the primary season.
Sanders is actually losing ground with African American voters and Sanders' current tactics are not evidently working.
Sanders will not be the nominee unless he can expand his base of supporters. Super Tuesday will be a long day for Sanders. Vermont is one of the last states with 90+% white voting populations