2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSenator Shaheen:Benghazi should not be used as part of a political pep rally to fire up a crowd
or for anything political (so this applies to ALL political parties).
It is VERY disrespectful and insensitive to the family members of those lost. Imagine if you were one of the family members and you heard this. Rhetoric can get heated but some things should be out of bounds - even in the world of politics.
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Senator Jeanne Shaheen took a peculiar swipe at Hillary Clintons rivals at a Clinton campaign rally earlier today. And it involves Benghazi.
Shaheen fired up the crowd as she talked about how well Clinton did at the 11-hour Benghazi hearing a few months ago. She asked, Is there anybody here who thinks that anybody else in this race, Republican or Democrat, could have done what Hillary did?
The audience shouted, NO!
Shaheen cried, Not Donald Trump
not Ted Cruz
and not Bernie Sanders!
Sanders has avoided talking about Benghazi on the campaign trail, though back in November he started saying there are valid questions about Clintons emails.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dem-senator-sanders-couldnt-have-faced-the-benghazi-committee-like-hillary-did/
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)And she is right!
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)agree that this was not okay.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)You just don't like what the senator said because it was effective.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)That is why a Hillary surrogate should never utter the word Benghazi.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)I would rather that the discussion be on a higher plane but apparently some people enjoy ludicrous fantasies.
PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)I mean, this is a pretty f-ing lame argument for Clinton. Oh, she had to endure months of grilling as the GOP spent millions of OUR tax dollars on these hearings. This makes her great? Presidential material?
I think not.
Unfortunately, she's on the wrong side of most of the issues this time around, because rank and file Dems have awakened and said, 'fuck this! We're tired of getting screwed over by Third Way people. We want a populist!'
Because, hey Third Way, it's not 2005 when you did that survey and most Dems that responded supposedly wanted to move to the right. But it didn't work, did it? All Third Way, Wasserman-Schultz, the Clintons, Shaheen and other Third Way types, like that Empty Suit Michael Bennet from Colorado, have done is fuck us over because they 'go along to get along,' and vote like they are scared to lose the next election instead of like they are trying to choose the best course for US.
That's fucked, you know? That's why I'll continue to be a fervent supporter of Bernie, who is showing every sign he's gonna win this thing.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)murielm99
(30,745 posts)Attack Clinton's strengths.
Of course she appeared Presidential at this grilling, this republican sideshow. That is why the bernistas want to attack her for it.
PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)I seem to recall Bernie being smeared from here to eternity about how he has a 'race problem.' Isn't that a Rovian attack of one of Bernie's strengths? I mean, if you're gonna accuse the 'bernistas' of going Rove, that's kinda like someone in a glass house throwing a rock through someone else's window, isn't it? Not you personally, but plenty of Clinton surrogates.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)interrupted him. His supporters here have been shockingly racist. And most POC support Hillary, not Bernie.
Those things are facts, not smears.
cali
(114,904 posts)only talk to white people.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Talk about not handling yourself well...
jeff47
(26,549 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)It's because there were hearings at all. Because there are always hearings with the Clintons. Since day fucking one. They do this shit themselves and you think they look presidential? I'd love to see the total billions of dollars the Clinton's own actions have cost us in investigations. Skirting the law. Lies, deflections, what "is" is, sniper fire...so sick of this shit.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)a disaster involving loss of American lives and if no war mongering less likely ISIS which partly evolved in the aftermath of Khadafi's overthrow. Poor judgement... Zero Leadership!
840high
(17,196 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)of Trump and Cruz with Bernie will be forgotten?
This will play a big part in her next election!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and she is the only one who is allowed to exploit the family members and no one else can bring it up?
you HAVE to be fucking kidding me.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)What is this? They did it so we can?
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i just find it laughable/appalling that anything a certain campaign does is ok. but if anyone ELSE does it they are hating or attacking.
interesting...
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)A) In the GE this would be totally appropriate,
B) The e-mail issue is still not resolved (see FBI investigation)
C)To bring Bernie up into this issue is utterly ridiculous as well
as badly advised.
Shaheen should be aware by using this against Bernie, that her next
election may just depend on his supporters.
Some people are just not thinking very clearly right now.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)My god, imagine if it was your family member killed in Benghazi.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)the hearings, I think, to show how strong HRC was.
Okay for that point, but comparing Trump and Cruz
to Bernie really takes the cake.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)She has been attacked on Benghazi, but she will use it to her advantage when she feels like it.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Like McCaskill and Shaheen. Who knows who will pop up next?
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)To remember her standing up against the Catfood Commission...now with Hillary triangulating on Social Security, it feels like Shaheen has sold out too.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)The party can do better than them.
Bernblu
(441 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)How is this any less unethical than when the Republicans do the same thing?
It's one thing to be proud of how Hillary handled herself and quite another to use the tragedy to whip up support on the campaign trail.