Keith Olbermann Special Comment: A Primary Blast from the Past

[TheBlackAdder]

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[SamKnause]

1. He really kicks it into high gear at the

7:13.

He lists all the things Hillary has been forgiven for.

[TheBlackAdder]

6. Some of the things. nt

[SamKnause]

7. My bad.

[Dawson Leery]

2. Fortunately he is gone too.

http://www.salon.com/2008/04/25/olbermann_apologizes/

He is at it again, bashing Hillary on twitter.

[TheBlackAdder]

5. As a poli-sci continuing ed student: Dozens of other equally damaging clips and documents remain.

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I am a neutral towards the primary candidates, as I admire and respect both HRC and SBS. My goal is to have a Dem in the White House and Dems sweep in down-ballot elections. I do not operate by scorched earth tactics and I will not trash either candidate, I'll just call it like I see it.


The level of discourse around here has deteriorated so much in the past few days, a reality check is needed.


I had struggles placing this one clip on-line, as there are dozens of others clips and documents that address anti-LGBT, anti-Equal Pay, anti-Minority, Anti-Small Business, anti-Environmental positions that I refuse to post. While I will not post them, they are all in the inventory of the GOP. Make no mistake about that! They will surface during the General Election by GOP forces.


Perhaps I should post them, to remind people what will happen in the General Election, but I won't.

I could post 4-5 of them each day for a month, like so many of the high-volume posters here, and there would still be many left over--quite a paper trail.


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Many who are younger will see her from a completely different viewpoint, as these issues appear buried.

While they are out of mind, they are very much in the mind of politically savvy students and with political campaigns.


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[kath]

8. Did you even watch that clip???

Jeebus H. Christ on a Trailer Hitch.
Do you not have a problem with Hillary using the word "assassination" at least twice, and alluding to RFK's assassination multiple other times during the 2008 campaign?!?
It really was inexcusable. I share Olbermann's outrage.

[tazkcmo]

9. Too bad your candidate sucks.

And really too bad it's on video.

[kath]

12. She really, truly does. The degree of suckitude is just astronomical.

How anyone could want to vote for her after watching that, plus remembering what she did in 2008, plus all the shit she and her surrogates have pulled in the past week is just utterly beyond me.

And it's too bad for her that with the Internet and the google, her lies can be exposed and previous acts/words brought up for all to see.
Loved seeing today Bill's words from 1992 about how outrageous red-baiting is; how it is the despicable act of a desperate campaign (paraphrasing from memory). HA!!
And last week, the signed photo from HRC to Bernie thanking him for being such a great advocate for healthcare.
Also from last week or week before, her 2008 comments about how despicable it is for a Democratic candidate to speak out against universal healthcare (also paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it).

Thank jeebus for teh interwebs!

[Punkingal]

3. I forgot how bad it was.

[BigBearJohn]

4. WOW I miss Keith

[Paper Roses]

26. Ditto! n/t

[Metric System]

10. Maybe somebody can take her into a back room or something. Pig.

[tishaLA]

11. thankfully, most professional historians (and political scientists) prize ethos

over pathos. The clip from Mr Olbermann is a great reminder about how pethos plays a role in constructing an enemy, but little more. As a popular cultural phenomenon, Mr Olbermann was brilliant, in the same way, many others have been. As a dispassionate observer of socio-political phenomena? Please make sure your emotions lead, I guess

(As an Obama supporter from 2007 onward, I appreciated Mr Olbermann bask in the day, but his limitations, particularly as it applies to deploying emtion ver reason in his argumentative skills) were evident from the moment he tacitly endorsed the brilliant Sen from Illinois)

[senz]

14. Ethos is basically an appeal to authority.

It's a weak appeal for uncertain people who need to follow others who are recognized authorities. Pathos is the appeal to emotion. Unlike ethos, pathos asks the audience to look primarily within, so there is greater authenticity to this appeal. But for those who value rational argument, logos is most persuasive.

Effective rhetoric makes use of all three appeals.

h/t Aristotle

[tishaLA]

15. but it doesn't rely, as Mr Olbermann does, on pethos

[senz]

16. Actually, Keith is speaking to moral outrage.

It's difficult to place precisely on the logos-ethos-pathos spectrum, but perhaps it fits best within ethos, for Keith is making an appeal to the authority of commonly held notions of decency.

[tishaLA]

17. Not really.

One of his most emotional, and therefore most feelgood, of his commentaries

[senz]

18. There is no "feel good" whatsoever in that commentary.

However, inasmuch as outrage is emotional, which it is, there is certainly an appeal to pathos in addition to ethos.

[TheBlackAdder]

27. You seem to write like a college professor. nt

[senz]

28. I'm not. Just happened to enjoy this line of study

in grad school, and when you enjoy the subject matter, it tends to stick.

[TheBlackAdder]

29. It's refreshing to read well thought out and constructed posts. nt

[senz]

30. It always is.

I noticed what you said in another thread about your interest in poetry. That and lit. were other favorites in school, so I can relate.

[kath]

19. "Feelgood"?!?! WTF.

What are you talking about?

[tishaLA]

21. Righteous indignation always plays well

rhetorical analysis, for example? Not so much

[Cassiopeia]

13. Of our two leading candidates

we have one that wants to fight for us and one who knows it is all about her.

Hillary is some kind of special.

[John Poet]

20. I guess Bernie needs to stay in the race until the convention, just in case of...

Dare I say the awful word?

You know----



INDICTMENT

[kath]

23. Good one!

[highprincipleswork]

22. Worth remembering. Nothing is worth the depths to which some will sink.

And just part of the reason I find it hard to ever support Hillary Clinton or those like her.

[LWolf]

24. +1

[BigBearJohn]

25. THIS VIDEO NEEDS TO GO VIRAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[onecaliberal]

31. Everyone should see this. I was watching when it aired originally.

I miss that guy

[lob1]

32. Great video, Black Adder. K&R.

[MissDeeds]

33. Holy hell

We can and must do better than Hillary.

K&R

[kath]

34. KICK. This needs to be seen.After the first 7 min(about her alluding to and mentioning assassination

) it details other very nasty things she said and did in the 2008 campaign.

[PonyUp]

35. Kick nt