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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:45 AM Jan 2016

Hillary’s big healthcare con

Hillary’s big healthcare con: The cynical myth she keeps repeating about Bernie Sanders and single-payer

The call to make the ACA work signals powerful medical interests and Big Pharma will make millions under Clinton


SALON, by Chris Brooks
1-23-16



The Clinton campaign’s cynical capitulation to corporate power appears to be reaching brazen new heights as the Democratic presidential nominee goes on the offensive and publicly attacks her rivals for their advocacy of single-payer healthcare.

Clinton, who has racked up just under $3 million from the healthcare industry in speaking fees over the past two years, has publicly dismissed the “Medicare-for-all” model proposed by Bernie Sanders as well as the publicly administered health insurance option floated during the debates surrounding the Affordable Care Act (ACA), claiming such policy proposals are risky and irresponsible.

....very large Snip....

Why did Obama and the Democrats purposely kill the public option? Because they made a quid pro quo backroom deal with industry lobbyists, promising that no government alternative to private health insurance would be in the final bill if the industry would provide their support.

Similarly, the White House reached a secret agreement with the pharmaceutical lobby, agreeing to table substantive reforms, such as the government leveraging its negotiating power to lower drug prices or legalizing the importation of drugs from Canada, and including policies that Big Pharma favored and stood to reap a windfall of billions of dollars in profits from. In exchange, the White House received the industry’s support, which resulted in the pharmaceutical lobby spending $150 million on television commercials in support of the ACA, more than the total amount Republican Senator John McCain spent on his 2008 presidential campaign.

The public option, expanding Medicare coverage to people beginning at the age of 55, importation of drugs from Canada and bulk price negotiations were all traded away by the Obama administration, and in their place Democrats offered $450 billion in taxpayer money to publicly subsidize the mandated purchase of private health insurance, effectively expanding and entrenching the corporate monopoly over the collective health of millions of people while still managing to leave 27 million people uninsured by 2025.

And all of this was done with industry lobbyists behind closed doors....

Read more, including stats on the revolving door btn DC and healthcare lobbyists~
http://www.salon.com/2016/01/23/hillarys_big_healthcare_con_the_cynical_myth_she_keeps_repeating_about_bernie_sanders_and_single_payer/
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Hillary’s big healthcare con (Original Post) RiverLover Jan 2016 OP
K&R nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #1
excellent post!nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #2
K & R n/t TubbersUK Jan 2016 #3
K&R azmom Jan 2016 #4
This says it all... tecelote Jan 2016 #5
no ella no puede reddread Jan 2016 #6
My insurance cost went up under ACA FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #7
So did my sister's. She's self employed. RiverLover Jan 2016 #8
And of course I lost my doctor of 20+ yrs FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #28
mine are twenty times more than before the ACA. Doctor_J Jan 2016 #17
Why costs will continue to rise BadgerKid Jan 2016 #9
Remember, Obama had the CEO's of insurance and Big Pharma to the White House and played golf with Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #21
Voters Aren't Buying It gordyfl Jan 2016 #10
That's a great toon. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #13
Didn't she say recently that her "Hillarycare"... SHRED Jan 2016 #11
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #12
K and freakin R! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #14
The private interests in the medical industry... CanSocDem Jan 2016 #15
Hammer meets nail! SHRED Jan 2016 #16
I'm paying 15% of my income on premiums alone SHRED Jan 2016 #18
K&R nt raouldukelives Jan 2016 #19
kicked secondwind Jan 2016 #20
This makes clear why the individual mandate was dropped so early in the "negotiations" FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #22
K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #23
Wall Street loves Hillary and she doesn't think she's doing anything wrong Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #24
The ACA SmittynMo Jan 2016 #25
I agree but if Clinton wins, single payer is dead. draa Jan 2016 #29
Just rewarding her financial backers... Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #26
K+R!!! draa Jan 2016 #27
Let me sum this up... SHRED Jan 2016 #30
Love it! RiverLover Jan 2016 #31
knr nt slipslidingaway Jan 2016 #32
Thanks for the kick! /nt RiverLover Jan 2016 #33
Thank You !!!!! nt slipslidingaway Jan 2016 #35
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #34
kr amborin Feb 2016 #36

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
5. This says it all...
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:45 AM
Jan 2016

"The call to make the ACA work signals powerful medical interests and Big Pharma will make millions under Clinton "

Hillary Clinton | Bought and Paid For

Bernie Sanders | Not for Sale

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
8. So did my sister's. She's self employed.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:25 AM
Jan 2016

She is considering putting the 1100/mo into savings instead and getting a catastrophic only plan because her deductible is so high anyways.

Its ridiculous. Tragic. Something....very hard to defend this to her. I don't even try.

BadgerKid

(4,553 posts)
9. Why costs will continue to rise
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:27 AM
Jan 2016

What’s more is that premiums are expected to continue increasing through 2017 and beyond. That’s when the Affordable Care Act’s two central cost-concealing provisions—and the associated taxpayer handouts—will expire.

The first is called “re-insurance,” which uses taxpayer dollars to subsidize the highest-cost patients. The second is “risk corridors,” through which insurers are compensated for higher-than-anticipated costs—like they experienced in 2014 and 2015. Once these programs expire, the lost revenue will have to be replaced—and it will come directly in the form of higher premiums. Dr. Stephen Parente of the Carlson School of Management at the University of Minnesota has estimated what families and individuals can expect to pay.

Using a health insurance simulation model funded in part by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Dr. Parente estimates the expiration of these programs will cause average premiums for middle-of-the-road silver plans to jump another 12.1% and 9.2% for individual and family policies, respectively, in 2017. And the years after that will only see further hikes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2015/12/08/obamacare-premiums-are-on-the-rise-but-dont-blame-insurers


This doesn't look encouraging.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
21. Remember, Obama had the CEO's of insurance and Big Pharma to the White House and played golf with
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jan 2016

them, all without a single person or group representing the people. We have no access to our government officials because we don't contribute $$$$!!! At least not like the Plutocrats do!

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
11. Didn't she say recently that her "Hillarycare"...
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jan 2016

Last edited Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:07 AM - Edit history (1)

...was just like Obamacare?

If so then that would be incredible considering history.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/266660-clinton-obamacare-was-hillarycare-first

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
15. The private interests in the medical industry...
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jan 2016


...won't give up easily. Nor will their spokespeople willingly admit to lying.

K & R



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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
18. I'm paying 15% of my income on premiums alone
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:02 AM
Jan 2016

Not counting co-pays or deductibles.

I'm in Covered California and get subsidized (actually it goes to the insurance corporation) but still it's expensive.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
24. Wall Street loves Hillary and she doesn't think she's doing anything wrong
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:33 AM
Jan 2016

How could she take all that money.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
25. The ACA
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jan 2016

was never intended to be a permanent solution. As long as it is in place, the money flows to big pharma, and the insurance industry, and single payer will never be on the table. Now is our chance.

draa

(975 posts)
29. I agree but if Clinton wins, single payer is dead.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jan 2016

There is no getting it back because, with the corruption in campaign finance, a candidate that's immoral will just take money from the insurance companies to leave it off the table.

We have a chance to save SPHC. If our party gets it's way though that will be lost for a generation or more with a Clinton win. College tuition is in the same position. We either make damn sure Clinton doesn't win the WH or we lose everything.

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